but if you remove god from the "intelligent" design nothing more is left. You will lose "intelligent" (god) and the design (almighty creator=god) so the conclusion is that life came from nowhere

the problem with hardcore creationsim is that they set up the rule: if we can disprove evolution, creationism must be right. Without any logic or evidence. This claim has to be true because it has to be true.
This is not scientific at all. They set up rules that support evolution in the main idea (genetic mutation for example) and accpect it since its an observable fact.
Then you rip thing out of context to find a phenomeneon or something unexplainable and make this made up rules look false.

example: we accept aearo dynamics and the modern flight. But because we cant explain how the humble bee is able to lift its body into the air, nothing else can fly.


Also the lack of definition is a big problem with creationism.
What is a species, what is human life, a mutation, evidance or proof and so on.
If you want to prove something wrong you will have to set up the definitions first.

Every scientist will admit that any theory can have mistakes, errors or misinterpretations.
The idea of science is to get those bugs out of the theories.
The development of the theory of evolution is like the development of the gs engine updates: it takes forever to release the final candidate and all the work has to be done by doug ... and once released even more has to be done to satisfy the audience.
Incompleteness doesnt make the engine wrong or none existent. Its just not ready "enough" for everyone.


-->..just like God cannot be proven...

It can be proven if defined first. Lets see: the theory of some old, white bearded men on a mountain called olymp had to be trashed.
The idea of a heavens gate in the sky was denied by american airlines. And if G.Bush continues to drill for oil arround the world we can soon close the "hell in the middle of the earth" case as well.

If on the other hand you say that god is the good in us, the little thing that makes us do the right things and the little difference that makes us better then the average bag of sand or some rocks ...or at least the power to make us try to become better.
Then its cristal clear, god exists and he will as long as there are good people.
Its just like one of those befenit tv money collection shows: "call 555-safe us! go and pick up your phone and save god. all you have to do is to donate some humanity. Do it, you have anyway more then you could spend in your whole lifetime" call 555-...!


and to be honest: the idea that all life we know today was created out of a puddle of mud and developed to what we see today is anything but against religion or god.
And on judgement day you can lean back and say: Yesterday just a puddle of mudd, and today a thinking, feeling and loving human being. no bad vita at all

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