Sorry for my too short and incomplete posts!

Here is another one: theme: patterns - self-referential system theory versus a higher creating intelligence.

I mentioned self-referential systems because I think that the vital dissension is more one of creation versus neg-entropy theories than one of a creation versus evolution theory.

(Sorry, to keep this post so short, again. The long post that I actually wanted to post is lost after pressing the "continue" button! I'm quite frustrated now, as you can imagine! )