@Irish: Excluding bible arguments, but admitting scientific arguments was just for getting a scientific discussion. Many creationists still think that there are scientific arguments in favor of creationism and bible belief is unrequired.

However, if you say that creationism requires believing in a literal "bible truth" and denying basic physics laws, like radioactive decay, it's fine with me. But you could have told us so long ago. I had agreed and the discussion were over.