"Ran, please stop. You're going to convert me to the other side.

No offense. I'm just saying, it almost seems like you're trying to convince them that they're right."

I see that point of view. I'd have to "lower" myself down to their level to continue.

They are so "high minded", esteemed and evolved creatures that they cannot understand the easy nor understand the "simple" logic of the world.

They have put themselves on a high Pedestal, with modern science as their god.
They also thumb their little noses at people like me, like the snobs that they are.

I would urge you, however, to not fall into the ideals and like-mindedness of these mental midets. There is a higher calling and it certainly is not on these forums I suppose. Bye...