Yeah sorry I didn't mean that in the sense of a "kickstarter" project. You are 100% right I am new and yes, as far as this engine goes my spirit hasn't been crushed yet.

It's the exact reason I see so much community involvement and so much contributions (I have looked through many a AUM), that I believe some part of this engine should be open sourced or eliminate proprietary stuff and get it in the hands of the passionate people who could do something with it.

It's one thing to see a product go down hill and have no community to fall back on, but that is not the case here, you guys ROCK!! They have an oppurtunity to make this engine viable again...not "just a learning tool".