Hmm yes i agree with you all on the points you made they are totaly valid , I do like gs enough to perhaps buy it but i think i should look at what its future brings ... Yes no perpect engine for every project and i guess we have to jump around per certain project between engines ..well this project of mine was intended so i could learn about pathfinding and a bit of ai and gs aswell but i am not done yet and i have not quit in my life before so i shall continue ..better to take a little break .. Sivan basicly this detour pathfinding is a* ontop of a navmesh produced by recast (not so difficult to learn) its actualy very fun to get into and very intresting .. Guys i think i will keep going with gs and just add to my list some of the other engines i admire so much ,theres no reason to abondone gs it has many uses and i love the simplicity of it ..