Heh, your right - Doom3 is well.... Doom with great graphics. I loved the first 2 theif games, but the 3rd one fell short. The biggest reason I felt was the city in-between missions. I really didnt like having to go around the city to get to missions dodging the same old gaurds over and over again. Also, the whole city looked very similar and I found it hard to remember locations. I wish they would have made it more like Theif 1/2 where you didnt have to run over to the merchant shop everytime you wanted to buy something and it progressed directly from mission to mission with cutscenes. The shadows sure were nice though and 3rd person mode added alot to it.