@lostclimate: i won't comment you imo unqualified comments about the doom engine, your mixing up of game design and engine capabilities, the difference between the art and the engine as well as the game industry part - think what you like. i am well aware that this thread wasn't about a6 or a7, only about ventilator's lovable plugin (read my first word: "impressive"). it wasn't me who made it an a7 thread, it was pappenheimer, re-read the thread if you like. he took my comment as an assault on acknex, himself and the community that it wasn't meant to be. you jumped on that train and took everything personally. so let's forget about it and calm down.