right, that's my point, it would be great for new rendering engines and stuff, but i also mentioned that the amount of support we get is far more than what you'd get for serious engine or ut engine, considering the deal it's a great price, but it is true that we've been promised a new rendering engine, and a shader editor, and more features...in all honesty the game engine is a good engine, especially for the price you pay, and as i stated before, the support is this engine's "ace in the hole"