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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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You may want to check the licenses, afaik everything sold on unity store is licensed for use in unity ONLY.
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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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04/27/18 12:53
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I cant read this anywhere / cant confirm THAT. And also found this ( on Unity Forum, link is below the Quote ) I'm almost positive you can use Asset Store purchases in UE4. The first clause of "only for intended purposes" is basically a legalese sentence that is clarified in the next sentence, telling you what the intended purpose is. Someone can't sell something on the asset store and then say "The intended purpose is for you to burn it to a cd and then eat it, and if you do anything else with it I'll sue you." Unity sets the terms of what the intended purpose is for exactly that reason, and the intended purpose is clarified in the next clause. FYI that clause is:
"perpetual license to the Asset to integrate Assets only as incorporated and embedded components of electronic games and interactive media and distribute such electronic game and interactive media"
There's nothing saying you have to use Unity for your game. As long as it's a game, you can use whatever engine you want. I'd also say that the fact that they never specifically demand that you use Unity in the EULA is on purpose; they don't want purchasers to feel like any art or sound they buy would be unusable when developing outside of Unity. Licensor grants to the END-USER a non-exclusive, worldwide, and perpetual license to the Asset to integrate Assets only as incorporated and embedded components of electronic games and interactive media and distribute such electronic game and interactive media. Except for game services software development kits (“Services SDKs”), END-USERS may modify Assets. END-USER may otherwise not reproduce, distribute, sublicense, rent, lease or lend the Assets. It is emphasized that the END-USERS shall not be entitled to distribute or transfer in any way (including, without, limitation by way of sublicense) the Assets in any other way than as integrated components of electronic games and interactive media. Without limitation of the foregoing it is emphasized that END-USER shall not be entitled to share the costs related to purchasing an Asset and then let any third party that has contributed to such purchase use such Asset (forum pooling).
The EULA is pretty clear. You are free to embed and distribute them within any "electronic games and interactive media". Unity already takes it cut when you buy them. They would obviously prefer you use them in Unity, but nowhere it the EULA is that mentioned at all. The Unity's Asset Store is separate from their engine.
There is nothing unclear about "worldwide" and "perpetual". You aren't licensed to use the assets in space, I suppose.
Editor Extensions have their own clause, but you aren't going to be doing much with those in any other game engine anyway.
So you do need to ask each asset author what the individual terms are, yes. Unity does a lot of protecting for the little guy in this respect but Unity can't protect you elsewhere.
Why would this be the case? Terms are agreed to and payment was rendered. There's nothing more you need to ask each individual author.
"perpetual license to the Asset to integrate Assets only as incorporated and embedded components of electronic games and interactive media and distribute such electronic game and interactive media"So pretty much than all others like DexSoft etc.License: https://unity3d.com/de/legal/as_termstext from Unity Forum: https://forum.unity.com/threads/can-i-us...-ue4-or.236557/edit: I also asked the dev of the models via email. He's fine too with the situation btw.
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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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When I checked the contents on disk I saw it keeps the original .fbx in the folder structure along with plenty of Unity-only meta data. I know i have the FBX files of the 3d model ( converted a City already ... hell of a work ). But i cant apply the mocaps from another fbx file to them Also get Makewalk (it's free and a part of Makehuman - http://www.makehumancommunity.org/wiki/Documentation:MakeWalk). It provides some Python Scripts for Blender for pose mapping. I tried that in the past and mapping was possible, although sometimes somewhat fiddley, since I'm not very familiar with Blender. Thanks. Once u gave me the same advice. If i remember right i failed. I know it could be done somehow. In the other Topic i posted a screenshot. The bone structure isnt that different. Thank you man for taking the time. If nobody reacts to my user request i guess ill give it a try again with that MakeHuman stuff. Easyest way would be if mecanim shit could be exported to one fbx file.
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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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Mecanim is somewhat a problem if it was used for animation... I don't quite know if there's a chance to export it. Up to now I've only dealt with kexframes existing on the original model and then setting up an animation state machine in Unity. --------- I'm doing it the other way round currently Converting A8 levels to Unity. Since I found the old FBX exporters for MED and WED this is going somewhat well, but in 99% of all cases and tries the texture assignment is lost. For models this is not so much of a problem, but levels have many different textures... ack... And I finally found the rootcause of the animation export problem to FBX. It's a friggin' 0..1 numbering issue. This makes the wrong pose being treated as T-POSe and messing up all keyframes. The solution is simple: duplicate the T-Pose (must be first frame) and then export... I could have needed that solution some years earlier when I gave up due to animations not being eported properly...
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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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I'm doing it the other way round currently grin Before using all this compilcated stuff it would be more easy to rerig the model in MED. But this is one of the things i dont wanna face while doing the Hobby work, just hate it. Scripting is time consuming enough. Maybe some MED Freak answers my user request. For a model expert this is an easy and fast Task. edit: Iam using ent_animatefrom for example for all melee weapons. But to work correct the bones must be the same. I tryed to merge Animation with fragmotion, but same Problem there as with ent_animatefrom. I dont understand the lack of available Software here. When i recorded my own MoCaps with iPi Soft, the bone retargeting took a few seconds.
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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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autodesk motionbuilder has animation retargeting. I.e. you pick 2 skeletons with different bone names and match bones as close as possible with the other one and get an animated version of the non-animated one.
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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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Read about that. But fragmotion got some sort of function too. Problem is matching fails. Some times it works...most times not. Renaming...mhm. Maybe i could rename the bones to match and then try again with fragmo. Have to say the models i bought were really hard to convert. Normally it works perfect but those...Horror. The models sometimes screamed "kill me" like in the 4th Alien movie edit: Is that motionbuilder free ? edit2: I asked the dev of the 3d mesh. Even he sayed its not easy for non 3d artists to do. He said Maya. Iam really thinking of using MED Trial and error rigging. But to be honest, iam to lazy for that.
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Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags |= UNTOUCHABLE;
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Re: Mecanim - Unity - Export ?
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04/27/18 18:46
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For all intrested...i mean unity's asset store is a great place to find Content stuff. I will Point out how u get the files mentioned here When I checked the contents on disk I saw it keeps the original .fbx in the folder structure along with plenty of Unity-only meta data. () Buy your asset in store ( Unity / Windows / Asset Store ) () In your Content tab click "Download" () Then click "Import" ( another window appears click Import again ) () Now Unity decompresses the package youve downloaded before All files are now stored in the Folder ..User/documents/Your Unity Project/Asset Name. The most files you can ignore, its unity stuff. But ull find FBX and of course the textures. With a quick convert to FBX 2010 with for example Autodesk FBX Converter (free) you can Import them into MED. If the Import doesnt work ( will happen on some newer models with effect stuff ) Import it first into Blender. Save again as FBX. Convert again. Import into MED. This should do the trick. FragMotion Comes in Handy btw. edit: Old rules are still intact. Buy a model with animations. Easy workflow. Buy model without Animation...Horror like before edit2: Animated models normally come with one Animation per FBX file. For example Monster_idle.fbx With fragmotion u can merge those anims with one click ( cause of the same bone structure ) making one single file out of them. Iam using half life2 SMD Format when building those single files with fragmotion, most times good working. Like said most times. The newer models i realized another trick cause all apps like fragmo milkshape etc wasnt able to save. If u have your FBX2010 files directly Import into MED using the "Save Frame to file/load from file" function to make one single file out of the animations. Worked like a charm. This only works for models that already have animations of course. Not talking about MecAnim animations.
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Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags |= UNTOUCHABLE;
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