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Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: RTG] #463042
11/11/16 18:30
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Originally Posted By: RTG
Heres a month by month comparison between my Z12 and Veratyr's since June 2015.



It's worth noting that Z12 has been doing really well lately. It was down for a while (which angered a lot of people) but for me right now, I've recovered and it's back up ~35% on my initial investment.

Also the difference between RTG's account and mine looks like it's probably mainly down to the difference in leverage we're using. My orders are larger despite my account being much smaller.

Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: Veratyr] #463501
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Have you stopped trading z12?

Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: RTG] #463838
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I did not retrain neither updated my Zorro after brexit since my account had good possitions all the time. Therefore I have an equity curve from july until now.

You can see there a DD of 3k in december. If someone begin trading Z12 at that time, the whole account would be eaten. Or in August one would get a DD of 2.5k. Not funny.

Thats why I do not recommend trading these systems eventhough I do. But well, I play lotto too.

Z5 zorro team equity curve is easy show as an example at zorro blog while z12 is "secretly" hidden eventhoug it could be used as well as an example of trend and mean reversion trading strategies combined. Or at least z2 and z1 could be shown by they are not.

Be aware of these things before trading these systems.

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Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: nanotir] #463971
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To be honest, if I look at the shared results of the Z systems (thank you for that), none looks and reports like described in the manual. Just starting with Zorro, but their statistics are quite bad and it seems that it is not advisable to trade the Z systems at all?

Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: GHMC] #464258
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Hi,
First, big thanks to the owners of Zorro System, it´s awesome!

I did set a demo account with Z12 last week :
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/toconar/miz12con4k/1944519

What amazes me is the amount of potential benefits it had loss, as you can see in the chart attached (blue line=Equity, Brown line=Balance)

Initial balance was 4000€, it has made +100€ or 2.5% gain quick, but it did not close any trade until it was too late.

Question: is this the normal / designed behavior?

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Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: toc17] #464301
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You will find that is that case more often than not.

Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: RTG] #464325
02/06/17 03:47
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I did briefly stop trading Z12 (needed the money for other stuff for a while) but I've refunded the account and resumed it (with 75 margin).

I'll add that looking at the backtest and my Myfxbook around the same period, it does seem similar. And Z12 was well and truly profitable by the time I needed the money.

Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: Veratyr] #464561
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Caught this podcast episode the other day.

https://robbooker.com/ep-6-scott-the-man-who-makes-1000-a-day-with-a-trading-robot/

It features a script trader who makes around $1000 AUD per day using an MT4 based strategy.

live myfxbook account here
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Hose80/tenfortyone/1059719

They disclose the strategy in the interview, a type of divergence reversion to mean seems to be the core of it.

Now this guy is making the type of money we all would like using someones elses system.



I think its possible to emulate this system with Zorro.

Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: RTG] #464562
02/26/17 12:44
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RTG: avg trade length 1d, yet there are trades that have been opened for many months, currently -50000 AUD in open trades - that's quite suspicious.

Re: Z System result sharing? [Re: pcz] #464576
02/27/17 14:33
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It seems all wrong to me as well. Average loss is 5x average win. No stop loss it seems and small take profit. Holds onto losing trades for long durations.

Yet currently at or near new equity highs. Would like to simulate it to run it through a battery of tests Zorro offers.

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