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[SOLVED]Model below block wont react to static lights anymore?!?
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05/29/16 01:28
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Hi. Can somebody explain why lightning on my models stops as soon as a levelblock is above them ? This problem seams to be only with some of my weapon models, Zombies are fine. No shaders on, sun_light = 0. Everything works fine. But when i create a block, above Players head, static lightning of some weapon models stops working, looks like UNLIT. I dont have an idea how to solve this, and what causes this. The keyframe Position of the MDL file ? Without sky-box-Level-blocks around ( or a single block above Players head ) all like it should be, static lights working, all is looking fine Block above players head, gun wont react to static lights anymore?!?!??! Standing direct besides a red light ( sun_light is zero this is not the point here ) Please help. This strange thing stops my process heavyly, cause i cant visualize in-door Scenes right now. Again, my guess is the orientation of the first frame in MDL file. But how to change? Short words: Block above weapon model, static lights reaction is close to UNLIT flag. Without block above, alls fine. Dynamic lights working in both ways. Weapon has no shader or material applyd. The big debug problem is, only a few weapons are affected, cant find the difference. Makes no sense.edit: Converted to vertex animation, moved all to center, same result. Some models wont react to static lights if a levelblock is above?!? switched to a non-shader project to avoid such kind of problems Greets
Last edited by rayp; 05/29/16 13:34.
Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags |= UNTOUCHABLE;
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Re: Model below block wont react to static lights anymore?!?
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05/29/16 09:22
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Howdy, switched to a non-shader project to avoid such kind of problems , which shader were you using? Also, I see some a little bit of lightning on the gun on the right in the 2nd pic. Are you sure you have placed enough lights and of enough strength? (perhaps the weapons are to dark?) Or do you have sun ambient also on?
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Re: Model below block wont react to static lights anymore?!?
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05/29/16 10:15
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This video shows how strange lightning works below level blocks. As soon as u have no block above all is looking fine again. https://youtu.be/QGsSSEd-YLgedit: Infront of door, weapon is faded to red light ( weak one ). Inside, gun does nothing below the ultra-bright red light.Even if i put 10 lights below the block, gun wont react to them and stays nearly black. What the hell ?And again two shots Without blocks above ( doesnt matter how high the blocks are ) One block above weaons sh* on lights ( see set much debug lights, should be red and bright like hell compared to the lights outside ) Greets
Last edited by rayp; 05/29/16 10:27.
Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags |= UNTOUCHABLE;
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Re: Model below block wont react to static lights anymore?!?
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05/29/16 10:46
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Okay so only with static lights, and only with certain models. Perhaps something is wrong with the static lights itself. Perhaps they are set that they dont brighten entities/mdls?
Or could this perhaps be some weird bug between the models and PRV/static lights? Like that something is a little bit off with the models that there is some error with how PRV is calculated over the models for lightning etc.? (doubt that though since I never encountered it myself)
I personally dont work much with WED / static lights anymore so I cant help you much further I think.
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Re: Model below block wont react to static lights anymore?!?
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05/29/16 12:12
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np, glad to help (or to try ), I would suggest sending one of your stripped down levels but with still the problem to gs3d support. They are helpfull and should indentify the problem fairly soon I think. Maybe also make a thread about it in the ask the developers sub section of the forum. I think its either a bug or maybe some weird kind of feature of WED/static lights that we are overlooking. Oh and you might also want to check in MED if the models dont have a custom material setting or custom shader set.
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Re: Model below block wont react to static lights anymore?!?
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05/29/16 12:46
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To mention...i send 3run the shotgun model. He faced the same problem. So its no local script - sun - value - setting or something. What we found out: Heavy scaling down model via scale_x fex helps, but no workaround cause then u would need to resize everything else 'force' model for 'receiving' light from the surface below. and cause the shotgun is bigger, its closer than other models to the ground/ceiling. Sounds possible to me. Maybe SuperKu can help here? Hope so, i tryed now since +- saturday 17:00
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Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags |= UNTOUCHABLE;
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