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Re: Crash! With a view entity [Re: 3run] #458091
02/16/16 13:05
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I can also reproduce, not a crash, but a wrong content of a variable of the internal model structure. And it is really related to the empty skin!

We'll check this more closely, but it looks like a real random bug of the model loader that can in fact cause a subsequent crash. If so, it will be fixed in the next update. I'll post when I know more. Thanks for that project!

Re: Crash! With a view entity [Re: jcl] #458093
02/16/16 13:24
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Thanks, good to hear. Looking forward to it!


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Re: Crash! With a view entity [Re: Superku] #458100
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It was indeed a hard bug, leading to random errors on loading models with mixed empty and non-empty skins. This will be fixed in the next update.

Workaround: Use models either with textured or non textured skins, but not with a mix of both.

Re: Crash! With a view entity [Re: jcl] #458101
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Great!
However, could you please release an (interim) update soonish then? Having the game crash on random levels during playtesting is mildly annoying but can be dealt with. My game's release is coming up soonish (in May) though and I want to send it to a few beta testers way before that.


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Re: Crash! With a view entity [Re: Superku] #458117
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We'll try to make it soonish.

Re: Crash! With a view entity [Re: jcl] #458118
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Good, thanks.


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Re: Crash! With a view entity [Re: jcl] #458381
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Originally Posted By: jcl
Well, not really yet, but there is still hope. The problem was of course that there was no problem here - no crash on any PC. Well, that's how crashes tend to behave. We plan a more thorough check in a special environment together with some other projects with similar issues. I hope then we'll find out what's happening. But that will take a while.


The latest engine release seems to fix this problem. I cannot reproduce it anymore on my pc.

and... yes... there was a suspicious model with skin/no skin mixture (wichtel_rot.mdl).

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