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Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? #443758 07/24/14 03:08 07/24/14 03:08
Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609 D DdlV OP Serious User
DdlV OP Serious User D Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609	Hi. Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but here goes: I have a 1:400 account and a 1:200 account. When I run the Download script to update Assets.dta, it's the same for the 2 accounts. Shouldn't the Margin entries be 1/2 (more or less) in the higher leverage account? TS shows MMR values that are 1/2... Thanks.

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: DdlV] #443766 07/24/14 07:44 07/24/14 07:44
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,982 Frankfurt jcl Chief Engineer
jcl Chief Engineer Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,982 Frankfurt	Yes, the margin entries should be 1/2. I would like to forward the issue to FXCM. Can you post the two Assets.dta here, from the old and the new account?

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: jcl] #443777 07/24/14 12:24 07/24/14 12:24
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DdlV OP Serious User D Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609	Sure. The files are totally identical, byte for byte, so I'll only post one. It turns out there are actually 3 numbers: For example, for EUR/CHF: 1:200 MMR in TS is 8.00 1:400 MMR in TS is 4.00 Margin in Assets.dta is 5.00 HTH. Attached Files Assets.zip (0 downloads)

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: DdlV] #443780 07/24/14 13:55 07/24/14 13:55
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,982 Frankfurt jcl Chief Engineer
jcl Chief Engineer Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,982 Frankfurt	Hmm. This looks as if the margin is neither for 400:1 nor 200:1, but something inbetween. Let me check this with FXCM.

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: jcl] #443784 07/24/14 14:31 07/24/14 14:31
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DdlV OP Serious User D Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609	Thanks.

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: DdlV] #443819 07/25/14 13:48 07/25/14 13:48
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DdlV OP Serious User D Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609	Hi jcl. Is there any reply from FXCM? Wondering how I should proceed... Should I manually copy the MMR's from TS into AssetFix.dta? It would seem that should cover Testing. However, if FXCM API is not returning the correct Margin, is it OK to Trade? Thanks.

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: DdlV] #443824 07/25/14 16:04 07/25/14 16:04
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,982 Frankfurt jcl Chief Engineer
jcl Chief Engineer Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,982 Frankfurt	Yes, it is ok to trade, but with half the margin. This compensates for the different size. AssetsFix.dta has no effect on trading. I have a response by FXCM, but they play the usual game of asking irrelevant questions in hope that the problem goes away inbetween. It will take a couple of days in my experience until a programmer really starts debugging it.

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: jcl] #443828 07/25/14 16:44 07/25/14 16:44
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DdlV OP Serious User D Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609	Thanks jcl. Yes, I understand that AssetsFix.dta has no effect on Trading. But it does on Testing. I'll create a new AssetsFix.dta with Margins = MMRs from TS, then Test for the appropriate Margin for the original CR, then per the workaround, set the Margin slider to 1/2 of that value until FXCM fixes the problem. Thanks.

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: DdlV] #443830 07/25/14 17:22 07/25/14 17:22
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DdlV OP Serious User D Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609	OK, it seems to be stranger than that. Here's the comparison between the Margin in Assets.dta vs. TS: Code: Assets.dta TS 1:400 Difference AUD/USD 5.000 3.000 -2.000 EUR/CHF 5.000 4.000 -1.000 EUR/USD 5.000 4.000 -1.000 GBP/USD 7.000 4.750 -2.250 GER30 6.000 9.000 3.000 NAS100 2.000 2.500 0.500 SPX500 8.000 12.000 4.000 UK100 6.000 9.000 3.000 US30 6.000 9.000 3.000 USD/CAD 4.500 2.500 -2.000 USD/CHF 4.500 2.500 -2.000 USD/JPY 4.500 2.500 -2.000 USOil 14.000 20.000 6.000 XAG/USD 0.100 7.500/50=0.150 0.050 XAU/USD 3.000 4.000 1.000 The currencies require less margin than Assets.dta reports and the CFD's require more. So, what should be done with the Margin slider?! Thanks.

Re: Margin in Assets.dta doesn't change with account leverage? [Re: DdlV] #444034 07/29/14 13:26 07/29/14 13:26
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DdlV OP Serious User D Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,609	Hi jcl. Did FXCM change something? Download now seems to give the correct 1:400 Margin on the 1:400 accounts, except that it's giving me 1:400 Margin values in the Demo account too, which they told me was always 1:200...

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