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Enemies to hold guns #429601 09/14/13 22:44 09/14/13 22:44
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 101 M mschoenhals OP Member
mschoenhals OP Member M Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 101	I'm using AUM's shooter code and I've purchased some example characters to work with while I'm learning about this program. Problem I'm having is that the character's all come with guns that are separate. I can add the gun in MED by using the merge command but I can't get that to happen in WED so enemies hold the weapon. Any ideas?

Re: Enemies to hold guns [Re: mschoenhals] #429602 09/14/13 22:49 09/14/13 22:49
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,107 Germany rayp X
rayp X Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,107 Germany	In MED: If your models have bones. Open your player model and merge the gun model ( file/merge ). Select a bone and switch into "Apply Vertices Mode". Select the vertices of your gun and press the "Apply vertices" button ( framerange should be setup to all frames ). If you want to do it by script this could look like this Code: void hold_gun(){ //me = a gun, you = player .. while (me && you){ VECTOR _a, _p; vec_for_bone (_p, you, "BoneName");//xyz pos of bone ang_for_bone (_a, you, "BoneName");//pan,tilt,roll of bone vec_set (my.x, _p.x); //set xyz vec_set (my.pan, _a); //set pan... wait (1); } .. } Cheers Last edited by rayp; 09/14/13 22:57. Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags \|= UNTOUCHABLE;

Re: Enemies to hold guns [Re: rayp] #429604 09/14/13 23:04 09/14/13 23:04
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 101 M mschoenhals OP Member
mschoenhals OP Member M Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 101	Thank you for your response. What if the models don't have bones? They do have animated actions but there's no visible bones.

Re: Enemies to hold guns [Re: mschoenhals] #429605 09/14/13 23:07 09/14/13 23:07
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,107 Germany rayp X
rayp X Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,107 Germany	Then the only thing i can imagine right now would be a workaround with maybe Code: vec_for_vertex Except of that i have no idea sry. edit: I assume u switched into "Bones" Mode before ? Last edited by rayp; 09/15/13 00:01. Reason: see edit Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags \|= UNTOUCHABLE;

Re: Enemies to hold guns [Re: rayp] #429606 09/15/13 00:45 09/15/13 00:45
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 101 M mschoenhals OP Member
mschoenhals OP Member M Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 101	Yup, just double checked. Is it common for characters not to have bones? I do a lot of 3D Animation - most of which is done with bones.

Re: Enemies to hold guns [Re: mschoenhals] #429607 09/15/13 00:51 09/15/13 00:51
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,107 Germany rayp X
rayp X Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,107 Germany	Every model i have bought has bones ( without i would not pay for it ). Its always better to have bones cause removing them is done in a second. And with bones ure able to use nice stuff like Code: ent_animatefrom Acknex umgibt uns...zwischen Dir, mir, dem Stein dort... "Hey Griswold ... where u gonna put a tree that big ?" 1998 i married my loved wife ... Sheeva from Mortal Kombat, not Evil-Lyn as might have been expected rayp.flags \|= UNTOUCHABLE;

Re: Enemies to hold guns [Re: rayp] #429632 09/15/13 18:16 09/15/13 18:16
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 408 mi usa sadsack Senior Member
sadsack Senior Member Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 408 mi usa	bones are good, no bone no buy I have A7 Commercial .............. Now I just need to learn how to use it

Re: Enemies to hold guns [Re: rayp] #429837 09/19/13 09:14 09/19/13 09:14
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 968 EpsiloN User
EpsiloN User Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 968	Originally Posted By: rayp Then the only thing i can imagine right now would be a workaround with maybe Code: vec_for_vertex Use vec_for_vertex twice for 2 vertices, then substract the two vectors (vec_sub) to get the direction from one vector to another and align the gun using the resulting vector. Code: vec_for_vertex(tmppos1.x,tmp_parent,vertnum); vec_set(my.x,tmppos1.x); vec_for_vertex(tmppos2.x,tmp_parent,vert2num); vec_sub(tmppos2.x,my.x); vec_to_angle(my.pan,tmppos2.x); Thats an example of one of my old projects, I modified the vector/variable names so you can understand what is what. After the vec_to_angle you might have to add to pan or tilt to get the right alignment of the gun (depends of MED). PS.: Dont be afraid to use vec_for_vertex and no-bones models for start, you can later change them with bone models without much coding.(If you make it clean) Extensive Multiplayer tutorial: http://mesetts.com/index.php?page=201

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