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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: txesmi] #421426
04/16/13 21:31
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@Helghast:
I've added the RPG Toolkit to TUST. Is it okay for you to fill in your full name into the licence or do you want another licence just for your toolkit?


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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: MasterQ32] #421428
04/16/13 22:08
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Could questions like these please be answered before merging in other projects? I wouldn't want to use a library which just merges in things left and right without caring for any license.
Also, who is going to maintain these projects? Who makes sure that they fit into the TUST ecoxsystem.

Right now it looks like you just want to merge as much as possible, quantity over quality. Why do you put it in a repo then? A FTP where projects could go to die would be much more effective and beginner friendly

Edit: That last sentence was a reference to sourceforge.

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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: WretchedSid] #421429
04/16/13 22:24
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Originally Posted By: JustSid
Could questions like these please be answered before merging in other projects?
Why do YOU care about it anyway? We merged any of your projects without asking a permission?
Originally Posted By: JustSid
Who makes sure that they fit into the TUST ecoxsystem.
WE make sure. The whole team behind the TUST.
Originally Posted By: JustSid
A FTP where projects could go to die would be much more effective and beginner friendly
Hm.. could you please go and try to troll someone else Sid? Instead of talking bullshit, you could create something useful.

And this goes to everyone, who likes to talk more that to do anything! If you willing to talk shit, better shut the fuck up.


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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: 3run] #421436
04/17/13 11:28
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Wow wow wow, calm down 3run.

He is a moderator in this forum and just tries to be helpful. His comment is actually a real problem for your project, since missing licenses can lead to big problems for the users later on.
Also, his arguments are not without foundation. In its current state it is probably not the most useful thing for beginners.
All in all, he is NOT trolling you. He simply tries to help you - constructive criticism.

Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #421437
04/17/13 11:35
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... with a bit of sarcasm laugh


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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #421438
04/17/13 12:09
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Originally Posted By: Rei_Ayanami
His comment is actually a real problem for your project, since missing licenses can lead to big problems for the users later on.
I'm totally agree with your statement, but! It could be said in more polite and right way!
Not by showing his negative attitude towards the project, and by this bullshit:
Originally Posted By: JustSid
A FTP where projects could go to die would be much more effective and beginner friendly
And yes, he is a moderator, and I wonder how could he allow himself, to talk like that to community members (community projects)?! I've found this very disrespectful towards other peoples, which spent their time! And towards the project itself! Plus I don't like to see, someone poking his nose into other people's business, let MasterQ32 and Helghast discuss this them selfs without a third person (moderator), who actually dissolves his language! As the project wasn't yet published or so, I don't see a reason for anyone to attack MasterQ32 or TUST this way!

Originally Posted By: alibaba
... with a bit of sarcasm laugh
I won't call that sarcasm.. It's a kind of a behavior which should be stopped from the beginning!


Edit: do we need a moderator to moderate other moderators now or what??


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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: 3run] #421441
04/17/13 12:39
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So the RPG toolkit was merged? What about my dialog lib? Now we have 2 dialog systems in TUST which is very dirty. When development continues like that I'll create an own branch. This collect-all-code-we-can-get behaviour is annoying!!! I feel the same as Sid except that I already put hours of my time in TUST.

Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: PadMalcom] #421442
04/17/13 12:46
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Originally Posted By: PadMalcom
So the RPG toolkit was merged?
It's in git, but I don't really see a reason for it to be there.
Originally Posted By: PadMalcom
This collect-all-code-we-can-get behavior is annoying!!!
Could you please tell me another example of merging all-in-all in TUST?? Why after merging single RPG Template (merging of which should be discussed with the whole TUST team, not like MasterQ32 did himself, acting like a boss), you talk (as I see not only you) like all of the stuff we have it TUST was included from a third side? It's doesn't contain any code snippets which were made before TUST, but those which are created by team members from scratch and they use almost same, user friendly API!


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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: 3run] #421446
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Originally Posted By: 3run
Originally Posted By: JustSid
Could questions like these please be answered before merging in other projects?
Why do YOU care about it anyway? We merged any of your projects without asking a permission?

I haven't released any stuff with an ambiguous license, so go ahead and merge whatever you want. I care about this because YOU want to make something useful for the community, which is great, and I fucking want to recommend this to others. But I can't, because licences are a real problem and copyright is something that actually exists, how do you expect me to recommend someone something that can get them sued?

Originally Posted By: 3run
Hm.. could you please go and try to troll someone else Sid? Instead of talking bullshit, you could create something useful.

You are right. I shouldn't have tried to point out potential issues with your perfect library dear glorious 3run. I sincerely apologize, I always forget my place in this world.


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Re: TUST or "The community library" [Re: WretchedSid] #421449
04/17/13 14:18
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Originally Posted By: JustSid
and I fucking want to recommend this to others. But I can't
This is just a matter of how much you want it to.
Originally Posted By: JustSid
You are right.
Thank you.
Originally Posted By: JustSid
I shouldn't have tried to point out potential issues
Ohh, don't say that, this makes me feel guilty...
Originally Posted By: JustSid
with your perfect library
It's not that perfect, as you might think, but thank you for at least some kind words.
Originally Posted By: JustSid
dear glorious 3run.
Yes, my dear?
Originally Posted By: JustSid
I sincerely apologize, I always forget my place in this world.
Oh, how nice of you.. Sincerely I have to say, that it's ok. you know, we all need to go throw this some times.


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