i didn't mean that. i mean we are talking about nowadays.
we didn't kill innocent people as the Republic of Turkey. if we want to talk about history, i can say so much thing but it's useless for this topic. We are talking about what america has done in nowadays. So lets speak this topic.

sure, nowadays the usa is involved in a lot more nasty stuff than turkey or austria but if you go back to ww2 and hiroshima (what this topic started with) then going back 30 more years also isn't a big step anymore.

Congratulation! You catch the point
And America's act are america's policy. it still doesn't change right? it's not only a picture from history. it's not only a sample. There is no any change since 1945.

it's interesting to see how some people here try to justify politics of their countries, like they can change it or hold responsibility for it. i don't think that american civilians wanted to bomb japan, neither did germans in ww2 or muslims or anyone. it's always a relatively small group of people, that take such decisions, and usually none of them or their families will face real consequences of war.

i totally agree with you. we are civilian poeple. There is no reason to be enemy to each other. i believe there are a lot of democratic and humanist people in every countries. But some small groups are responsible for this wars. Mostly people are blind to see what this small groups have done. They think there is no problem on this world. That's a blindness or foolishness.

i am sick of most hollywood movies and pc games. Most of hollywood movies and pc games are just a propaganda. Their topic mostly is "there is a dictator in south america or africa, or middle east and USA give them democracy."
But that's a big lie. And i am really sick of this and people who can't see of this.

*MOST* would be a huge overstatement...

also, half of africa is full of warlords and there are a lot of dictators and drug lords in south america.. the setting is not that wrong.

one may argue that the way america handles things are wrong. but at least they do something. unlike most other nations...

sure, lets help people. just dont do anything. hypocrisy everywhere.

and last but not least: if some idiots would just stop acting moronic and if their own people would do something (like egypt) then america wouldnt have to do anything in the first place...

if you are talking about hollywood i think we don't talk about same holyywood .
if you are talking about blindness people, i think you are the best sample for this people. i understand you, really...

Do you have any idea who supported that dictators? Who sells weapon them?
Do you know how much goverments of the world responsible for the drug and gun dealing? Do you really beleive that democracy came to iraq when usa bombed iraq?
Do you know how many innocent civilian are killed and tortured in iraq? (18+)
Do you know what happend in ebu gurayb? (18+)
I realized you don't have any idea about world.


Also, ignorance and cringe are everywhere.

And finally, i am also worry about some american soldiers. Because they have a family and they are deceived (by their goverment) and they don't know what is the real war. That soldiers die for nothing. Real war don't like pc games. Real war is here (18+).

But you don't care right? Because you are safe in europe now.
You can still talking or farting about democracy and hypocrisy and whatever.

Eh. This is pretty much what I think of this thread now:

that too. I think if a place disagrees with thier current state, they should be revolting. if they arent, im not sure its our place to come in and intervene. some people even if they are oppressed for some reason believe thats the way life is supposed to believe. a lot of people still believe in a theological government, and if they do, why not just let them.

@redeemer. lol that was pretty funny.

shame... but not surprising.

You must relized that, some people can't accept to play three monkeys and truth is bitter. I said that i need to say.
Case closed for me.