to be honest im a little annoyed that redeemer even brought up religion (no offense redeemer) because america's war choices should have ZERO to do with religion.

Some years ago America intervened in Kossovo to stop the genocide of the Albanian comunity
Most of my friends , here in Italy, said
" You see, the imperialists .."
I said
" Maybe it is just humanitar intervertion, this time"
"Hehh candid guy, they have their interst "
"What bloody interest can they have in kossovo ?"
"Well, uhmm, let's see...hum..they must have some... "

America behave sometime as a sort of "big brother"
Ok it may be annoying but that's it

If America wasn't founded at all, there would now be an empire with a third grand religion that would be an example of all the others!
Dances-with-the-wolves shall teach you!

Alrighty then...

I am NOT american. I am from Europe. Austria - a country that had its fair shares of ups and downs.

And since this Terrorism thread turned into an anti america thread, lets get some things in here...

Nowadays, it pretty comon to bash the US of A. Sure, we all use US stuff, watch US movies, US TV, listen to US music and are happy that we can have our US food with our US drinks. But we do not apreciate that.

No we bash the USA because it is a practical stint of showing that we are unhappy.
SO many things go wrong in the world, but we always blame the USA.

ANd now some idiots run around here and actually think that Osama is a fake, that 9/11 was a fake and that america is the big evil.

so we have countries in this world where more people get killed everyday by guns than in all of ameridca in an entire year. sure enough, africa has enough people, lets kill some more. and that was england down there that fucked shit up, not america.

half of the world beats itself up every day for things like religion. the other half beats itself up because some "leader" thinks he knows better. two thirds of the world are not even free enough to actually be allowed to marry the one you love. dont even get me started about women abuse and women rights.

but that all doesnt matter, because its not america.

tell you what: id rather have a dozen americas trying to police the world than one saudi arabia.
id rather have a hundet americans running around with guns than one RADICALLY BRAINWASHED islamic terrorist.
id rather have a thousand americas invading countries than one asian coutnry invading countries.

the problem is that, sure, america has a truckload of problems and is pretty quick with getting wars started, but the otehr countries are even worse.

north korea, iran, saudi arabia, afghanistan, palestina, israel, china, all thos countries are far worse than america. but its okay because tehy are other ethnicies we cant badmout them we be racists. fuck that hypocirsy. if a country does shit, it does shit. blaming america wont help...

oh and by the way, us europeans ever wondered why we can live as free as we do? well guess it was because the USA invaded us with the soviets. and after everything was said and done the soviets left us, tortured and killed the imprisoned soldiers and devastation was around. and what happened? the americans happened. helping out rebuilding...

and i am glad for that.
i am glad that america exists.

see now thats a good argument. personally like i said, i dont necessarily think taking saddam out of power was a bad idea, and if anybody did it, america would be the one. I just hate the fact that america was lied to about the intent, and that not only were they lied to, but they were dumb enought to believe it. WMD's... pfft.

After reading lots of history and current events from multiple sources, it seems to me that the real terrorists are the World Bank that hold most countries to ransom, with economical terrorism. The US served its purpose as the lackey (in plain view) and is now being internally destroyed.

There is no good argument for what have america done.i am from Turkey. We are in middle east and we alied with america. and trust me, we know what happend in iraq&afghanistan.

if there is a war in a zone, that effects in near countries. But some american's lover won't be able to get it.
i am not anti-american , i am not america's lover either. So i am not gonna kiss his ass.



This thread not about anti-america or just terorism. first question is;


so this thread about america's acts are terrorism or not.



We are turkish people. We know what's the real war and terrorism.we still fight against real terrorists. we fight against terrorists since 1978 but we never nuked innocent people or never killed them. And we still lost a turkish soldier and civilian everyday.



here is the real terrorists
here is the what they have done (+18)
here is the american soldiers
here is what they have done (+18)

THERE IS NO DIFFERENT!

i say, in my oppinion america's acts are real terrorism. i'am not unfair, i am not hypocritical, i am not blind either. i don't know you guys.

armenian genocide is only a claim but armenian deportation is true.

anyway i am talking about nowadays. i am from turkey not from ottoman empire. But i know why did you give this sample. Because you don't have any argument (or you don't know what's the different between ottoman empire and Republic of Turkey.) There is no make sense but if you want to sample from history, here is it. indian genocide oh and wiki of course

well, i can also say that i am from austria, not from the greater german reich.