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Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: AlbertoT] #326220
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@AlbertoT I think what he meant was that shaders have good fallbacks to older hardware. So you can have your game with shaders, and if somebody plays it with a pc that doesn't support those specific shaders it will fall back to an older version of the shaders that the pc supports.

Exactly!.


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How can Unity be as fast as 3dgs even to old GPUs ?
3DGS use ABT / BSP scene management algo's , i.e a huge amount of data are precalculated
I can understand that this feature may be not that important for new GPUs capable of rendering milion tris but for old ones it should make the difference


why should 3dgs users always aim at OLD"even extinct"machines???come an man take alook around,forget unity for now,every game in the markets today"or even 3-4 years before"uses technologys that 3dgs A7
could'nt dream of.all of this AAA games need's medium2fast machines,and they sold too many copies of them.you can't consider 3dgs ability to run on old machines as feature,even though 3dgs not that fast after all.put some shader's in the scene and some ENTITY's
with stencil shadows"not even blured" and the engine will become a monster eating all your mashine's resources,if not use this tow neat features you'r game become as old as quake"even quake uses some sort of decals shadows!!!".

again i love 3dgs,but it definitely need's some improvement,

Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Why_Do_I_Die] #326221
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Originally Posted By: Why_Do_I_Die
@AlbertoT I think what he meant was that shaders have good fallbacks to older hardware. So you can have your game with shaders, and if somebody plays it with a pc that doesn't support those specific shaders it will fall back to an older version of the shaders that the pc supports.


It is a matter fact that Unity3d game engine is well optimized
I tested Unity, dxstudio, Leadwerks
Even though I would prefer Leadewerks workflow over DXSTUDIO and DXSTUDIO workflow over Unity I finally went for unity, Unity being much faster on modern PC
However i doubt that , generally speaking,Unity can be faster than 3dgs on old PC'a unless , as you said, he was talking about shaders only

Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: AlbertoT] #326277
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I even can get more FPS in Unity then Gamestudio. Shaders in Unity are waaaaaay faster than Gamestudio's.

Unity wins. Unity kicks Gamestudio's ass away behind the game engines. Face it, it's the truth.

Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Cowabanga] #326280
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Unity wins. Unity kicks Gamestudio's ass away behind the game engines. Face it, it's the truth


lol grin

Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Vinous_Beret] #326298
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@Cowabanga: Shaders in A8 are fast wink

Have seen it myself wink

Last edited by Rei_Ayanami; 05/31/10 15:03. Reason: Blah Blah^^
Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #326304
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Originally Posted By: Rei_Ayanami
@Cowabange: Shaders in A8 are fast wink

Have seen it myself wink
Ok first, it's Cowabanga.
And second, is it faster than Unity?

Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Cowabanga] #326305
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Sorry bout the e/a ^^

Don't know if its faster but it is at least 6 times faster than before...

Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #326306
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No problem laugh

Well, since Unity's about 10 times faster (Well at least on my PC) than A7, then it's probably 4 times faster than A8.

Unity wins, deeply.

Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Cowabanga] #326313
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this discussion is pointles, since all this shader performance thing is highly dependant on GPU.


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Re: Unity 3 announced [Re: Quad] #326316
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...Do you enjoy ruining my discussion?

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