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Re: You guys do NOT make this easy -- MMP Part 2: Technical
[Re: MMike]
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08/19/08 22:01
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Would be nice a little demo from conitec, just to show that MMOG is possible and pratical, because if its not pratical, then should not exist and start to think in a new network engine. Hallelujah Mike!  If an MMOG is possible with DPLAY, then prove it. Here is my proof that it's not: Directplay games: see any MMOG or for th...browser based)? If a 50 person MMOG is possible with native GS, then prove it. The "global entity update" proves that it's not. If a stable MMOG is possible with native GS, then prove it. The inability to prevent someone from connecting and injecting data to crash our engine proves it's not (though I admit this may have been fixed in A7). There is my proof of the inadequacy of DPLAY for the modern MP environment. Can we work on solutions now or do you Conitec has counter-proof you would care to present?
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Re: You guys do NOT make this easy -- MMP Part 2: Technical
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Re: You guys do NOT make this easy -- MMP Part 2: Technical
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the features list of game studio lite-c full says no multyplayr is supported? Edition | lite-C free | lite-C full | Extra | Commercial | Pro
Level editor no no yes yes distributable
Multiplayer no no no 8 players unlimited
Zone servers no no no no yes HOW COME?? this means my game is not multyplayer able?
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Re: You guys do NOT make this easy -- MMP Part 2: Technical
[Re: fastlane69]
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08/20/08 01:59
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i can't even use the gstnet plugin for lite-c , it crashes engine, when creating client..  OH MY GOD THIS CANT BE!I PROTEST.. "WE WANT TO MAKE MMOG's, LETS BRING A NEW DAY, AND FORGET DPLAY"
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Re: You guys do NOT make this easy -- MMP Part 2: Technical
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08/20/08 07:08
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fastlane, as far as i understood, JCL offered you what you demand with this post:
- You've heard that the Directplay network library is slow or unreliable, and want another library.
- You want the server to send entity updates only to a subset of clients in its zone.
- You got error messages in your game.
- People told you that you can't do a MMOG with Gamestudio.
Is that a correct summary of your main problems so far?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Otherwise I'll think about how we can help in your case, and will post an answer in the next days. We take such a problem seriously.
why not take this offer and start being creativ?
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Re: You guys do NOT make this easy -- MMP Part 2: Technical
[Re: fastlane69]
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08/20/08 07:33
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EDIT: I do not think it is saying that lite-c doesn't do MP but rather if you only buy the Lite-C version of GS, you don't get MP. If you buy Comm or Pro, you do get MP, which Lite-C can do.
Yep, that's it.
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Re: You guys do NOT make this easy -- MMP Part 2: Technical
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08/20/08 11:21
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i can't even use the gstnet plugin for lite-c , it crashes engine, when creating client.. Oh come on, at least spent some hours trying GSTNet to work instead of bursting to tears here that it's gamestudio's fault at the first error message. I have GSTNet working perfectly fine. These post are just aimed to make a dramatic scene and are not helpful at all. And there is nothing wrong with the lite-c translation nfs42 made.
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