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Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: AlbertoT] #212613
06/23/08 12:38
06/23/08 12:38
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I have my copy of unity now. Lovin it! Especially the in-engine mtt terrian system with many more splat maps than I have ever seen in a 3DGS app. The AGEIA phys-x engine is amazing too, with lots of prefab components like physics-based wheel systems easily hooked up and ready to apply forces to.. playing your games in a browser is just the beginning.

For PC users, it is definitely worth the hassle of migrating to Mac! Your PC desktop or laptop could probably run MAC-OSX right now, with about a day's worth of tweaking, so you don't need to fork out a lot of money to migrate. You can even just install it to an external USB drive and can boot Mac OS-X leopard without wiping your existing Windows installation.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86 for more information, or search Hackintosh, insanelymac.com forums is really useful.

Dear Gamestudio,

Ever since we first met nearly four years ago, back when you were just a young and innocent version of yourself named A5 to today in your full game-enginehood as A7, we have grown together and shared many endearing moments. I learned a lot from you, and we loved and laughed... it's been a long beautiful relationship but.. I think there is a time in every developer's and game engine's life, and maybe this time for us is right now, when it is necessary to move on and start seeing other middleware solutions.. no, it's not you, it's me. You'll always be my first love... (god i need a life)

Check this nice game out made with Unity: http://raptorsafari.com/play.php

Right click it to go fullscreen.

Last edited by JetpackMonkey; 06/23/08 13:02.
Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: JetpackMonkey] #212625
06/23/08 13:56
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jetpack, what are you telling me? i can use unity on my windows notebook just by using a mac-simulator? you are kidding, right?


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Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: Frederick_Lim] #212634
06/23/08 14:30
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if they have direct export to ps3 i will move and buy unity lol,but thats impossible cause no homebrew support in ps3 frown

Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: ello] #212650
06/23/08 15:46
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Ello,

Not a simulator, you can run Mac-OS-X natively on most Intel machines. Apple stopped making their macs with Power PC chips, and are now purely Intel based, just like your desktop PC.

If you got OS-X 10.5 (aka Leopard) and patch it, you could install it and run it on your PC natively (though it can take some time to get the drivers right). Like Vista, you can buy Mac OS-X Leopard without a computer. This works best with a dual core intel chip with SSE2 and SSE3. I have heard that you can do it with a Pentium IV and SSE2 only though. No idea what SSE actually is, btw laugh

Mac OS-X will identify your computer as a Mac Pro. So you are not simulating Mac OS-x, you are actually running it, and as far as the operating system is concerned, you are using a real Macintosh. But not as a window within Windows, but as a separate installation. Lots of people are doing this suddenly, now that the newest version of Leopard is much easier to install on non-apple PC's.

Also, it is possible to just install it to an external USB hard drive and boot from there. And then boot normally when you want windows.

Some drivers for sound cards and wifi don't work out of the box, though, and some people have resorted to sticking little USB wifi and sound card dongles on their PC's, which do work. (and you can get for less than 25 EUR apiece)

People are discussing this alot at insanelymac.com. It's a very hot topic all of a sudden. I for one can vouch how much nicer OS-X is than vista.. is smooth and creamy.


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Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: JetpackMonkey] #212689
06/23/08 18:39
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just got an reply from the unity support. a mac book is not the way to go if you want to create content. better an iMac or a mac book pro, but those are expensive if you want to have something capable

Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: ello] #212704
06/23/08 19:48
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Or just get this and buy Leopard to run unpatched on it
http://www.psystar.com/index.php?&op...1&Itemid=72

Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: JetpackMonkey] #212740
06/24/08 00:24
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Quote:
Dear Gamestudio,

Ever since we first met nearly four years ago, back when you were just a young and innocent version of yourself named A5 to today in your full game-enginehood as A7, we have grown together and shared many endearing moments. I learned a lot from you, and we loved and laughed... it's been a long beautiful relationship but.. I think there is a time in every developer's and game engine's life, and maybe this time for us is right now, when it is necessary to move on and start seeing other middleware solutions.. no, it's not you, it's me. You'll always be my first love... (god i need a life)


Dear lovely JetPackmonkey,
We know you'll come crawling back to Daddy Gamestudio where you belong, so stop fooling yourself.
~From GameStudio


Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: JetpackMonkey] #212744
06/24/08 00:50
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just checked the Unity website and also was checking out the gallery.
I think it is a very nice engine with many nice features.

I also checked their architectural visualisation that I found in the gallery, the screenshoots looks very cool and promising. So I downloaded the program found on http://unity3d.com/webplayers/ZeroFractal/Agua-Windows.zip.

I was more than disappointed, maybe it a is matter of the conversion to make it able to run under windows.
But something like this should not be used for promoting an engines output, no matter what “3D pipelines" were involved.

Judge by yourself:

A print screen directly taken from the application.

Here the Acknex result:

This scene is without Anti-Aliasing, directly taken from the application. With the next update for A7 (that will come very soon I hope *sigh*) AA will be intergrated in that scenery.
Also a bloom-blur and a sharpen shader is implemented.

Dont get me wrong, I think Unity is surely an impressive engine. But for me/us it is no option.

A funny sentence I found in the Developer profile:

Quote:

How long did you spend?

emm.. about 2 hours after downloading the trial smile



Well, they invented the "do_a_very_good_looking_scene" button laugh

/sarcasm.flags = !VISIBLE;

To be honest, after exploring this application, I found me asking my self why our screenies doesnt adorn the 3DGS galleries smile

cheers

zwecklos

Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: zwecklos] #212756
06/24/08 02:16
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The A7 engine itself isn´t that bad at all. It´s quite competitive with Unity in my opinion (except maybe the ODE physics engine and lite-c, which is a less modern and less sophisticated "scripting" environment than MONO). The tools make the difference. The Unity editor is what a game editor should be like nowadays and Unity comes with ready to use high quality solutions for things that require a lot of your own work in A7 (shaders and shadows for example).

Re: Unity 3D now on Wii [Re: amy] #212786
06/24/08 06:27
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zwecklos, i believe your scene would look as goog in unity. that is a question of the person(s) behind. so its no valid comparison

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