Well the fact that we have it set in our mind what God is and what context he exists in says that even if he showed up, or we found trillion year old remains of the being responsible for all creation, we would never know it is or was the creator we all harp over.

Let's suppose we do come across God.. and he isnt Jesus, or Allah (even tho that isnt a name but a word meaning God), and he isn't omnipotent, immortal, omniscient, human, humanoid, or in any way magical, mythical or in exception to the physical universe.. but nonetheless we are looking at the being that created everything we know and see.

Would we know that this is our "God"... or would we dismiss it based on the fact he isnt what we believe God to be?

@Phemox...
Just..wodering about your theory..

If you dont see, hear, smell, or at all sense a tree going to hit you.. does it mean that said undetected tree is not, in fact, about to injur you?

This may be surprising to the untrained mind, but you don't need a definition of x to prove that x doesn't exist. All you need is to know one or more properties of x, and then you show that these properties contradict one another. Here the properties associated to God are omnipotence and goodness. If you don't believe that these are properties of God, I kindly invite you to refer to a dictionary. It's also true that the problem of evil argument assumes that good agents want to prevent bad things, which in turn implies that good things want to affect the universe. But again, any conception of morality in which good agents don't want to prevent bad things is deliberately using the words "good" and "bad" in a perverse manner. Finally, let me point out that the law of unintended consequences holds no terror for an omnipotent being: if bad things happen latter on, It can just fix them, too.

@ nitro

Accepted science..that is science as dictated by the church and political government... held the flatworld theory..not true science that is exploratory and fact finding.

...about people and their connections..

How do they know it's God? If it says so, how can they know it's telling the truth? How can you know something you don't know the first thing about what it looks, sounds, thinks, feels, or is like?

In truth, God is a fruit whos taste, texture, and appearance we dont know
and wouldnt know if we partaken in it.

I know lots of people who claim to be connected with God, including a good friend.. but in observing him, I would say that the retrograde motion his life that has taken place since being "saved" has more to do with him getting off his butt and excercising more moral discipline and work ethic than any God walking him thru life. Perhaps something has told him to do so, but I would say that he and these people finally realized that their life is going nowhere and suddenly listen to the same voices of influence that we all have which make us decent, prosperous beings.

I have these influences too.. they are called common sense and moral decency. They keep me from being an industrial grade @$$hole and top flight criminal on a daily basis. I dont recall ever having the inclinct to be either. I think I just have the normal dose of right and wrong cognitive ability.

Perhaps they are God-given..but I seriously doubt they are he himself talking .

About natural disasters..

Our increase in natural disasters is due to our abusing our poor planet.. We have made our world the crapshoot that it is for the majority of humans...no superior power is to blame.. only us.

@ Romac

Good points..:)

but then the question becomes whether we are looking for a God, the creator, or both.

Obviously we expect the creator to be a God...but what says this is so?

Ok, now, enough empty talking. This is a science forum, so let's talk science, and not loosing our time with religionists. God exists only in our imagination, and in our imagination everything is possible! So let's settle this once and for all, and move on!I wouldn't dream do this, but they made me do it (religionists) with thei mumbo-jumbo.First - let's understand eachother - concept of "God" will always be needed in different sorts of society issues (no question about it), BUT - let's leave religion out of place where it is not needed - the science!
OK!?Second - let's understand eachother that question of MORAL (human values, human logic, human sensitivity) regarding this delicate question of cloning, is something else, and that it shouldn't be confused with religion in any way!... Human moral exists, and it must be obeyed, but not in relation with religion.NOW THIS! Only because you asked for it!PROOF THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST:Existing means: actually being in some space, occupying some exact space coordinates, settleing upon certain space (else you do not exist by definition).
Everything that exist is somewhere, not nowhere; and being "somewhere" implyes "location" - e.i. existance of something that is "space". Therefore: if God exists, first there must be Space; then: if there has to be Space first, God didn't create it because he didn't exist to create it - because to create something first you yourself must be (exist); Further more it means that at least one thing must exist before God is to be created, and because there is nothing else than "Space" it means that only Space can produce "God" (that is: IF he is to be created). If Space could create complex thing as a "God", why couldn't it create simplyer things such as matter, an everything that we can se existing... So: there is no purpose of the concept of God. Space bears logic in all of it's tiniest pieces, there is no need for unitar logic. There is no GOd.

I don't like your disproof, even though it has some point in it.
So what if we define existance as consuming space, maybe God was wrongly defined by stating he "exists".
If you could prove everything must "exist" then your proof would work. (Time does not exist)

Science measures temperatures by the presence of heat, or the absence of it.

Does this mean that cold does not exist?

I've yet to see a prove for god. Inside this thread and the links at least are none.

However I've seen enough idiots believing in god and relying on this fact instead of taking care of themselves - pretty bad idea.

What millions of people think, believe cannot be taken as a proof for the existence.
We've had that plenty of times that millions of people were so wrong... (WAR *hinthint*)