Hello, Ive been trying this over and over again yet i cant get it to work. First off im using a nividia geforce4 mx 420.. which could likley be my problem right there. So im curious is bump mapping possible with my graphics card. If so I hate to ask but could someone possibly show me a code and explain the steps needed to create a normal map for this... Also is it possible to create a normal map in a program like gimp or the like.. Or is a special program needed. Again sorry i know this has been asked at least a thousand and one times just still havent had any luck. I was told before fixed function shaders would work on my card but again no luck... Ive succesfully used enviromental mapping however. Thanks in advance and any and all help will be greatly appreciated.

Mmmm, I kind of forgot, but that card doesn't support shaders, that you'll need....


Code:

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And this one is even a little newer, but doesn't support vs or ps... In some thread someone mentioned something about software emulation, but I think you're out of luck here..

Cheers

Bump mapping is for sure possible in a non-shader Geforece MX.. It wont like as good as a pixel shader would, but its better than nothing. look in the A6 documentation, there is an example in there somewhere, called somehting like reptile skin ...

not sure what all that code meant but i understood im outta luck I knew it didnt support vertex or pixel shaders just wasnt sure since was told fixed functions would still work. Sighs oh well...

is enviromental mapping a shader? Im reffering to the tutorial for enviroment mapping on a sword from the wiki.If so what are a few other types of shaders that work along them lines.

The fixed-function pipe you can use. The Conitec effects.wdl and their Dot3 Bumpmap code in the manual has fixed-function effects that you can explore.

You should be able to do the FFP cubemapping.

There are quite a number of FFP codes floating around that you can get aquainted with in this forum and the wiki... There are also many DX6, and DX7, FFP code examples on the net. Between those and referencing the Microsoft DX effect file documentation you can probably pull off some interesting effects.

thanks steampipe. Youve really brightend my day

Edit:

Shrugs I have no idea what im doing ive tried the code in the manual. Just copied and pasted it. No luck. Prehaps im not using a proper normal map... which is very possible since i have no idea what it is. I just made a tga file in gimp put a black squigly line on a white background and gave it an alpha channel. sighs im lost.