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Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: jcl] #429200
09/10/13 09:58
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Originally Posted By: jcl
Meanwhile enough people have subscribed the Z systems for us to see which systems are significantly preferred. Strangely, 95% of all users subscribed Z12. Only a few subscribed Z3 and only two so far subscribed Z5.

This is about the opposite of what we expected. We've put most of our own money on Z5, as it comes the closest of all to a regular income. Also the Z5 drawdown is limited, while drawdown of the other systems is theoretically unlimited. If you think about which system to subscribe, have a look at Z5.


I thought that, too.
I am currently trading Z5, a self-made script similar to Z5, and Z3.
Z3, however, has just started and not taken any trades yet, but I am definitely considering putting more money into Z5.

Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: Sundance] #429231
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Originally Posted By: DMB
JCL - When you say subscribe to Zs, do you mean people who pay the monthly fee or does Zorro report to you which Zs are being traded?

Do not worry, Zorro does not report us anything. We do not spy on users. I meant the people who pay the monthly $5.

Originally Posted By: Sundance
JCL. Just a question. When i trade Z5 with the equity needed (2000$) and starting Zorro. Are the sliders of Margin and Risk are set to fit with a account of 2000$ ?


PS: I also must rethink the slider settings of my 2000€ Z12 account. I think they are to low with margin and risk set to 10...
When the Z12s test gives me this info:
Profit 20150$ MI 487$ DD 1636$ Capital 2558$

That does mean i need 2558$ on that account to start with the given settings!?

Yes, you should really have the $2558. Either directly on that account, or at least somewhere else if you need to remargin. It is unlikely that a strategy will already start with the worst drawdown, but it can happen.

Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: jcl] #429234
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Thank you! Just canceled one of the Z12s account and changed it into aZ5s strategy. :-)

Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: Sundance] #430107
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Puuuh. Z12s did take a short on USD/CHF but the asset is already really down. Very interesting to see how it will move....
I fear that this trade will cost me an huge amount of my real euros :-|

But I trust the EA and will bravely sit on my hands :-)

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Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: Sundance] #430110
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Was it entered by the same algorithm as the 3 usd/chf shorts before?

Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: royal] #430111
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Yepp. At the moment we are in a consolidation zone and i'am sure there will be a big break out but i consider it to be going up.

We will see if something happens when NY opens in 20 minutes

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Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: Sundance] #430114
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Ah okay. I wish you good luck laugh 0.15 lots is a pretty heavy bet compared to the others shocked

Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: royal] #430125
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Yeah. I little raised the Margin slider according to the new account balance. But I was also surprised to see 0.15 lots ... We will see. At the moment after NY open there is still no movement. Very very exciting .

Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: Sundance] #430195
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US users can't use Z5, or did I misunderstand that?

I liked the 95% win rate, but didn't think it was available for me. I see it has 3 different modes now, and one is called "virtual hedging". Does that make it NFA compliant?

If so, I would like to give Z5 a try. My Z12 demo isn't really doing much. It has entered some really good trades, but holds them too long and looses the profits. I don't understand the "AI", seems like Zorro would "learn" to stop doing that?


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Re: Which Z system is the best? [Re: GlennR] #430197
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Oh, I found the answer. I need to set "hedge=4", but then the Win Rate drops to 70% and the Profit Factor drops to 3.

I will give it a try.


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