Ok, so updating my web design skills...

wtf.

Im tired of not remembering which nested f*cking language im writing in, when writing in a php file loaded using ajax thru jquery which of course uses javascript which only runs inside php if a certain variable is set. all of this is styled by css, and marked up in html5.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

This is exactly why I couldn't get myself very deep into web design.

My brother-in-law does this for a living, I don't know how he can stand it.

Use more Flash!

Don't use flash!
It's actually quite doable, if you can split it up in back-end / front-end and MVC or any other pattern.

On mobile, we develop frontend in html5 to display and parse websites, and use javascript with wormhole to communicate to C/C++ via XML.

Oh my god. I always knew why I didn't get into that web shit. ^^

When developing for mobile (via mosync for example) you can choose to do stuff in C/C++ only, but if you want to read in websites and alter them with C/C++, you'll need a html(5) parser available first of all. Luckily android and ios are capable of doing just that, and mosync has template projects that cover the parsing for you, you just need to catch the events that come in via wormhole in C/C++. But if you need to do a bit more than just receiving and sending you need to know javascript/html5 too in order to extent both frontend and backend.

Pfff.
Sounds more fun than creating some CLI Winforms app, docking unmanaged C++ code to it, add things with WinApi, hook some unmanaged static lib, pack everything into a DLL which then docks to A8 routing the engine output into the Winforms application which requires hacking the Windows message loops.

I learned so many things I never wanted to learn.
PHP, Javascript, HTML, CSS and everything mixed together with some SQL database? I have no fears... not anymore

it always has been like that and isn't that bad.

it only would be great if python webhosting were as ubiquitous as php webhosting since i would like to do more projects with django. python in the browser as an alternative to javascript would be awesome too but with jquery javascript is acceptable.

lol soooo relieved to not be the only person amused by this statement. doable is not the issue. maintaining my sanity is


@vent yeah i know its always been like that, but it slowly built into that. back when bandwith was a commodity people didnt need realtime updating stats without a window refresh linking to a mysql server. They went to a page and read a <td></td> table.

It's just... every language is good in something else. XML is a medium for transporting data, like JSON, so the model. Html5 is great for displaying stuff, the view. C/C++ works best for doing the logic stuff, the controller.

Put everything together and you have the MVC pattern.
Well not entirely but just to make a point. It's pretty clear to me, I don't understand too well whats so insane about it.