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MineCraft Distorterator [Not any more, Fixed it :D] #351135 12/22/10 05:39 12/22/10 05:39
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia the_mehmaster OP User
the_mehmaster OP User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia	If you want to be 'In the know' about what this topic used to be about, scroll down a bit. Otherwise, you can just read this So I have optimised my 3dgs minecraft level editor (well, viewer for the moment ) a little bit (And I stress the 'little bit' a lot..) I don't care! show me a picture! Okay then That's 256 chunks, runs at a measly 10fps (Although that's still a lot better than 16 chunks at that speed) Also, thanks to Damocles for the optimisation tips Here's a close-up, in that same session: It's cube-licious! If anyone has more optimisation tips, I'm more than happy to listen. Also, if a mod could move this to the 'projects' forum that'd be nice Originally Posted By: the_mehmaster Yesterday I was thinking that it would be quite useful (and pretty cool) to have a minecraft editor (like MCedit) but made in 3DGS. I started coding this morning and all went well, I learnt a couple of zlib functions (minecraft chunks are gzip-encoded) Spent an hour importing and making '.mdl' versions of minecraft blocks Then I successfully loaded a chunk, no errors. So then I worked on the base-36 system, with file-directories and such. I thought it would work fine. I tested it on my savefile, and here's what I got :- A big mess.. 'I should be able to fix it pretty easily', I thought. But then I zoomed out a bit more:- An utter and complete mess. It was at that point that I gave up on the project, closed the files, and renamed the main-script 'mineCraftDistorterator.c'. Just thought you might be interested EDIT: I'm using A8 free because I havn't bothered to upgrade yet Also, in the highly unlikely event that anyone wants the source, ask here and I'll upload it. Last edited by the_mehmaster; 12/23/10 01:44.

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: the_mehmaster] #351140 12/22/10 06:25 12/22/10 06:25
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 256 USA , NY msmith2468 Member
msmith2468 Member Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 256 USA , NY	thats cool i like it. i would be intrested in looking at it if you dont mind. just for fun. i might learn something new. thanks for shareing Mikes Wicked Games www.mikeswickedgames.com

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: msmith2468] #351141 12/22/10 07:57 12/22/10 07:57
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia the_mehmaster OP User
the_mehmaster OP User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia	Actually, turns out I got it to work properly But I'm having EXTREME fps (runs at ~10 fps with 16 chunks loaded) issues.. I'll have a go at optimising it tomorrow. Whether I make any progress or not, I'll upload the source sometime soon. (within 48h) Last edited by the_mehmaster; 12/22/10 08:02.

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: the_mehmaster] #351146 12/22/10 10:18 12/22/10 10:18
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,154 Damocles_ Expert
Damocles_ Expert Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,154	Try writing a function, wich makes blocks invisible, that have another (full, non transparent) block on each of its 6 sides. This should tremendously reduce the number of blocks to draw. When I hink about it: Notch could have written a block-storage format, wich would be only a few kilobytes, instead of several megabytes. Simply by only saving blocks that have changed. As the world is initially generated using a random seed, the world-shape could be recreated from a single integer number. And only parts that have changed (added/removed) would need to be saved. Some small recent games of mine: Griefer 4k http://damocles11.byethost9.com/griefer4k.html Kobold 4k http://damocles11.byethost9.com/kobold.html Cave 4k http://damocles11.byethost9.com/cave4k.html

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: Damocles_] #351150 12/22/10 11:00 12/22/10 11:00
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia the_mehmaster OP User
the_mehmaster OP User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia	Quote: Try writing a function, wich makes blocks invisible, that have another (full, non transparent) block on each of its 6 sides. This should tremendously reduce the number of blocks to draw. Ah, good idea. That's along the lines of what I was thinking of... Quote: When I think about it: Notch could have written a block-storage format, wich would be only a few kilobytes, instead of several megabytes. Simply by only saving blocks that have changed. As the world is initially generated using a random seed, the world-shape could be recreated from a single integer number. And only parts that have changed (added/removed) would need to be saved. That will be true for smaller filesize, but I think that speed of access (especially in large amounts, and in multiplayer servers) would suffer considerably from such a format simply because the overhead is moved from the RAM or hard-disk to the CPU. Good concept, though.

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: the_mehmaster] #351153 12/22/10 11:25 12/22/10 11:25
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,154 Damocles_ Expert
Damocles_ Expert Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,154	On the other hand, calculating the position of blocks is definately faster than transporting the blockpositions over the net. So the time to load the level might be smaller. And these weired errors (mountains cut on a straigt line) on servers would be gone. He then just needs to keep the old generation-algorythm in the code, in case he changes them, so servers/clients can recreate the fromer look of the terrain after an update. Some small recent games of mine: Griefer 4k http://damocles11.byethost9.com/griefer4k.html Kobold 4k http://damocles11.byethost9.com/kobold.html Cave 4k http://damocles11.byethost9.com/cave4k.html

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: Damocles_] #351256 12/23/10 01:46 12/23/10 01:46
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia the_mehmaster OP User
the_mehmaster OP User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia	I took your optimisation onboard, it works tonnes better Also, I updated the first post because it's not really 'minecraft distorterator' any more

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: the_mehmaster] #351260 12/23/10 02:20 12/23/10 02:20
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia the_mehmaster OP User
the_mehmaster OP User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia	I did a crazy stress-test 1024 chunks, 3 FPS : Why the heck did I do this?! You gotta admit, It does look pretty cool

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: the_mehmaster] #351261 12/23/10 02:28 12/23/10 02:28
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,134 Netherlands Joozey Expert
Joozey Expert Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,134 Netherlands	Nice work . Are your models one whole block? Are sides also visible that are actually facing away from the camera, or between other blocks? Click and join the 3dgs irc community! Room: #3dgs

Re: MineCraft Distorterator ;) [Re: Joozey] #351262 12/23/10 02:47 12/23/10 02:47
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia the_mehmaster OP User
the_mehmaster OP User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 528 Wagga, Australia	Quote: Are your models one whole block? Are sides also visible that are actually facing away from the camera, or between other blocks? Yeah they are.. That's probably the main performance problem at the moment. I'll have a go at fixing it up .

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