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and the BP oil thing? #328577
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Wonder how nobody opened a topic on such important subject.

The earth surface can blow out, if the oil gets out, and the pressure, enlarge the hole, more oil will come out.. and who knows what happens if water comes in, and evaporates, (since the deeper you go, the hotter it gets)

Well earthquakes, tsunamis.. etc..

"And the earth will break apart."
AHAHHAHHAH ..
Thats a positive thing though.

Re: and the BP oil thing? [Re: MMike] #328582
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seriously, here is waht happens:
after millions were spent to try to work things out, the final approach will be the one that should have been taken long ago: blow it up, seal it.
BP will go bankrupt in the process for it cannot get better for the company from here on out.
the whole region will be contaminated for years. tourism will die and people will be jobless, anotehr crisis is inevitable, and it will drive up crime. not to mention the outcome for the eco system. this is a serious problem, one that will come back to bite us all in the ass, as fis are dying and alot of import export stuff that goes on will change. and all because some fuckers want to bleed the planet dry.
well done BP i hope you go bankrupt and your executives lose everything, ncluding their freedom for applying serious damage to the planet, the eco system and the economy...

Re: and the BP oil thing? [Re: sPlKe] #328610
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Blowing the hole up, would render the oilfield useless (uncalculatable instability), and
BP looses the investment into drilling the hole.

Thats why BP tries to seal it.
It offers the option to reactivate the (working) drill.

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In the end we are all consumers of oil-based products.
BP is just one of the companies offering a service we all use.

Its more an issue of missing regulation of underwater oil exploration.
The government should quickly impose requirements to have tripple proved
savety systems to these drills.

(BTW, Louisiana LIVES from the oil industry.
Its the single most important industry there.)

Re: and the BP oil thing? [Re: Damocles_] #328616
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I do hope we'll find out how it is like to live without oil soon enough. I'm all in for a bit of anarchy, just to forcefully rebuild an eco society anew wink.


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(without giving up all the nice luxories of course)

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Without? tongue
If society norms allowed abundance of "luxuries" like plastic, electronics, ..., I would be happy to adapt.
It's not hard to craft your own luxuries if you know how.

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Re: and the BP oil thing? [Re: Damocles_] #328638
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but its much more than that!
I think its time for people to rise their awareness.. and we killing the planet.. this is a beggining.. The war for oil, the need for money power, etc.. you let this happen.. we dont rise agaist this oil things, not using renewable energies etc..

From news i read:
The super high pressure release of oil from under the earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day. The flow of oil is bringing up with it rocks and sand which causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the drilled hole itself.

As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off the flow, and to contain the pressure.


The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc.. The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf.

This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more. The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.

The tsunami wave this can create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole. Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years.
When the engineers saw that, the tested the blowout preventer with a pressure test. OK, no problem, but the test they used was based on a 1960's patent using an algorithm that never though humans could drill 5,000 feet underwater. Took 8 hours for pressures to equalize, BP rushed everything, and the top blew off. Whooops.


PLUS: The chemicals will unbalance the micro nutrients for other species to eat, and the whole food chain will break.. very sensitive to subtle changes, small fish dies, everything dies, because, the big fish can't eat small fish that depends on plankton. and so on..



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Re: and the BP oil thing? [Re: MMike] #328649
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According to Lindsey Willaims:

BP drilled a super well down to 25,000 to 20,000 feet in the gulf, much like Russia did on land.
They hit oil (a Biotic fuel that is not fossilised fuel like before) that is gushing out at a pressure of 20,000 to 70,000 PSI, which took them by surprise, and the security measures they have, cannot cope with the pressure.
They are preparing to evacuate the area, just in case they cannot come up with solutions to contain it.


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Re: and the BP oil thing? [Re: pararealist] #328652
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So who speaks the truth?
In fact it doesn't matter. You can smudge yourself in oil and go start protesting at BP's headquarters, or get a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show as people rush in panic because they're responsible, and everybody knows. These disasters are the only things that can prevent further exploitation of the earth. Look at nuclear power plants. One accident in Chernobyl and nobody wants a nuclear plant again. A pity though, such clean energy production. Oil winning not so much.


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Re: and the BP oil thing? [Re: Joozey] #328654
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thats why i said, this is a positive thing, because it will give a scar to this oil thing... probably banned or something.

But hey are trying to put a nuclear bomb in the hole? i mean what side effects it has?

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