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Re: Foolish community [Re: Joey] #328512
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Yes, of course it is missing content and that is, why we are looking for more members wink.
And that article by Hummel actually isn´t really what the forum is meant to be for, as such articles just don´t really fit into forums. Such a forum is meant to change rapidly while such articles should just be at an easy to find place where you find them instantly.
The forum really is meant for solving problems and discussing different topics. The problem is that mostly due to the little number of users, there aren´t really any problems yet and also no real discussion which is worth discussing.

Re: Foolish community [Re: Slin] #328516
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The forum really is meant for solving problems and discussing different topics


that's correct.
and BTW:thanx for you'r tutorilas "i never read them though".

may be you are right about the SPECIAL forum for advanced user's,but don't forget that 3DGS is mainly aimed for Absolute Beginners.

Re: Foolish community [Re: Vinous_Beret] #328519
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Originally Posted By: Vinous_Beret
But don't forget that 3DGS is mainly aimed for Absolute Beginners.

I don't see that.

Re: Foolish community [Re: Joey] #328522
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one thing some people missing about the 'Fools': It's not just about GS.


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Re: Foolish community [Re: Quad] #328524
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Originally Posted By: Quadraxas
one thing some people missing about the 'Fools': It's not just about GS.


shocked ??????????????????????????

Re: Foolish community [Re: Vinous_Beret] #328530
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STOP POSTING !

If you don't understand that... you should STFU...

Its about other engine, too, damn...

Re: Foolish community [Re: Joey] #328553
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Originally Posted By: Joey
Originally Posted By: Vinous_Beret
But don't forget that 3DGS is mainly aimed for Absolute Beginners.

I don't see that.


And yet there is perhaps a lot more truth in that comment than you'd ever admit. I wonder why for example that 'pros only' forum has only 16 members so far. Such a thing has been tried in the past before and failed. Why would it work now?

Honestly a lot of the more experienced users tend to lose their interest in 3DGS and move to other programs by the time they're really able to use 3dgs to it's full potential. Think about Unity3D, the free Unreal engine and so on. There's so much else.

The fact that you can still use C-script and the relatively newbie-friendly lite-C too isn't perhaps that relevant to getting things done in 3DGS, but it's definitely a serious clue about the target audience.

Just think about how Unity3D automatically integrates with other programs like 3D Studio Max and Photoshop within a very neat and effective work-flow. It's aiming at an entirely different audience. One that can't easily be classified as 'absolute beginners' by any standard.

3DGS is no Click-n-Play or Gamemaker and still requires skills (especially programming skills once you'll get serious with it), but I think it's not a wrong classification to think of it as a beginner engine.


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Re: Foolish community [Re: PHeMoX] #328557
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  • There are "only" 16 users because I didn´t invite more in the beginning.
  • I can´t remember anyone having tried something like this before.
  • So far I am pretty happy with how it is running.
  • If it does fail, I don´t see a problem with it.
  • Unitl now I only asked gamestudio users to join, but the forum isn´t meant to be focused on gamestudio as the engine shouldn´t matter much for a more experienced user anyways.
  • Unity vs. A7 has nothing to do with this thread.
  • That C-Script is kept is mainly an advantage for professionals like Dejobaan Games.
  • Lite-c is a lot less beginner friendly than Unitys Javascript thingy.
  • Gamestudio is "aimed" for absolute beginners. But more experienced users can get much more use out of it.


Re: Foolish community [Re: PHeMoX] #328558
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Okay, it is beginner-friendly, and I am constantly wondering why so few professionals are using it. Either they're not around here in the forums or they're non-existent. So probably you're right. And I'm also, well, annoyed would be the wrong word... disappointed? I don't know..., by the majority of the stuff posted here. I owe great respect to a few of you who either get things done or really know something about coding and game programming. And in addition I really like the community here. I've learned a lot and although I've not been using A7 for the last two years I try to stay updated about the features and functions and help out here and there.

I'm not sure all of those I'd like to see in this community will "change". I like the idea of a forum to show and discuss more sophisticated stuff. This should be quite interesting. But I'd like it even more if it was integrated in these forums here.

Re: Foolish community [Re: Vinous_Beret] #328559
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Originally Posted By: Vinous_Beret
...3DGS is mainly aimed for Absolute Beginners.


bla.

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