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Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preor [Re: vlau] #184715
02/20/08 14:05
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At the german MultiMediaTreff in Düsseldorf a speaker was looking for help implementing the irrlicht engine into director, because the already implemented engine is weak! And, my impression of the 3d part of the demo: very slow!
Only the last link is in english, sorry!

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Schlussendlich zeigte Christophe Leske Irrlicht 3D und die Irrlicht Xtras für Adobe Director. Die Irrlicht 3D-Engine ist eine hoch performante Echtzeit 3D-Engine, die von jedem Entwicklern genutzt werden kann. Es lassen sich 3D, wie auch 2D Anwendungen für Spiele oder wissenschaftliche Projekte realisieren. Die Engine ist vollkommen kostenlos – wurde aber nicht von ihm entwickelt. Sein Fokus war seine eigene Entwicklung, die Irrlicht Xtras, die man in Director Projekte einbinden kann. Der Sinn: ca. 60% aller Webanwender haben Shockwave installiert und könnten dann daher durch den (automatisierten) Download Irrlicht Applikationen in einem Shockwave Dokument abspielen können – es wäre damit seiner Meinung nach die am weitesten verbreitete 3D engine on earth – also genau dass, was viele Spieleentwickler wollen, wenn es um Web2.0 und 3D Anwendungen geht.




http://www.multimediatreff.de/naechstestreffen.php


http://irrlicht.director3d.de/

Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preor [Re: Pappenheimer] #184716
02/20/08 14:33
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I played these demos and they are really good in 3d aspect.

Phosphor - a first-person shooter

ClubMarian - a socialising net chat.

There are many other demos at clubmarian, all very interesting and addictive.


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Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preor [Re: Dan Silverman] #184717
02/20/08 14:45
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I agree, Director does not have the best rendering system but for me most important is how easy it is and how popular the web player is, at least in the past. I have used it since version 4 and I hope this new version will get back the attention of many users that were disappointed for the lack of updates.

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Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preor [Re: costa] #184718
02/20/08 15:44
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What are the statistics as to how many people have the webplayer already installed? Would be interesting to know.

Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preor [Re: JamesA] #184719
02/20/08 16:17
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The guy that I mentioned above talked about 60% of all users in the web.

Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preor [Re: Dan Silverman] #184720
02/20/08 16:53
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However, Director is not a tool for EVERY project. If someone uses it for what it is not intended then they are certain to think Director is trash, just as if I were to try to remove a screw with a toilet plunger. The problem would not be the plunger, but the person using it .




So true.

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Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preor [Re: Pappenheimer] #184721
02/20/08 16:57
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It doesnt matters what percentage of users are there. But it does matters wether the technology is promising enough for us developers to embrace or not. And if there is good content then everybody will follow. And as developers we should always watch the potential markets and trends.


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Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preorder) [Re: costa] #184722
02/20/08 23:27
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I tried the Director 11 Demo Mountian Bike Game...

It's not half bad, actually its pretty good.

An update of Director would be welcome by many developers. The games will play on a PC and MAC, big plus if you are doing educational games or Serious Games.

Anyways the old beast has some nice new tricks...

Ken

Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preorder) [Re: Nardulus] #184723
02/21/08 12:37
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'It doesnt matters what percentage of users are there'

It matters a great deal how many people have the shockwave plugin installed on
pcs,
you get a high end site for a corporate client, they are not going to want
users to wait for plugin installation even is shockwave.
Outside gaming sites, not many people appreciatte plugins and cannot be bothered downloading them, many might even be wary as they have read a little bit about viruses in their newspaper on way to work.

Thats why currently for simpler 3d I prefer the flash route as more people have the flash plugin on pcs and macs, its higher than 60 percent.
I would love shockwave to be pre installed on pcs and macs.

Re: An old beast is coming back: Director 11(preorder) [Re: JamesA] #184724
02/21/08 14:31
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I dont think that it matters that much to have concerns for corporate sector and as such. They are not even going to install any outside thing, be it 3dgs, TGE or any product. And Flash is not yet 3d. Your idea of having the director preinstalled is very good but that will be the work of parent company.

BTW I just went through car game - can do interactive and altered the car level in max7 and played the newly altered level. I am impressed by the performance of the director and ease of handling things. I am really going to do more experiments with it . Though I have not found any good tutorials for creating 3d games in director yet . I think that ver 11 is going to really blow things away as it is supporting Ageia PhysX now.


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