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High poly models
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09/17/07 13:13
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I will use different models for my game. High poly models for secuences and low poly models for the game itself, like programmers do in some game consoles. If i want to aim this game for PSP and PC, what do you think is the best polycount for high and low models of the game?
For example Final Fantasy X use 3 different models for each character, one for battles, another one for scenes, and another one for the game itself.
Do you think i can use 15000 poly for an high poly character keeping in mind that it will not be moved but the player, it will be used to make cutscenes in different areas?
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Re: High poly models
[Re: padrino]
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09/18/07 04:25
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At first i planed my levels to be very very big, but i am noticing its not a good idea because i want to use high poly models and if the maps are that big it can be slow... so i think i may divide the map in smaller parts so i can make my models high poly.
Is that a good idea?
PD: I will be using fixed cameras, do you think that will help in the framerate? Is not the same an RPG with fixed cameras than a FPS with fast movements.
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Re: High poly models
[Re: Felixsg]
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09/18/07 17:10
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The majority of the consoles (like ps3 and xbox360) use videos for the cutscenes, when not using then you can see the noticiable low quality compare to in hardware cutscenes
Why not use videos (¿WHD, if you have a PIV 3ghz think) intead of a realtime render
If you talk about PS2 and XBOX1 then you may be right, but for PS3 and XBOX360 i think they dont use videos, when you play a video you notice its a little blurry, and its all generated by the game engine, i will use videos in some pats, but in other parts where you want your characters to interact or to talk eachother you need to do it realtime, if i do it with videos it won't look very professional. The players have to see that the graphics are good, if the play with low poly models "waiting" for a cutscene to see the character details, then its a littel boring.
Even some PS2 games like Final fantasy X and Final Fantaxy XII used realtime a lot, (FF12 used realtime almost 90% of the game)
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Re: High poly models
[Re: Bahamut]
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09/18/07 20:05
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Hm...high Polycount is good. BUT: If you use, maybe 10.000 Polys or more, then you'll have a very slow game. Good games like Half Life 2 (Cutscenes with Barney and others) have all low poly Chars. If you have a very good texture, then the polycount is not so important. Try to use chars with max. 4500 polys. This is a very good polybudget. The most games use not more then 3500. You can look at the page from Antony Ward. He's a freelance graphics designer in the gameindustrie. He makes 3d models for games, animations and many other things. Here the link Antony Ward Theres a Tutorial for making 3d models for games. I recommend to buy his book. Game character developing in Maya. (Maya PLE is also included) Greets Schmerzmittel P.s. Wenn jemand interessiert ist am Modelieren von Characteren. Das Buch von Antony Ward ist nur wärmstens zu empfehlen. Ich habs mir gekauft, und meine Fähigkeiten bezüglich Organischer Models steigt jedesmal, wenn ich eine Figur anfange. Ihr bekommt wirklich alles erklärt. Bis ins kleinste Detail und das von einem PROFI aus der GAME-INDUSTRIE. Guckt ihr HIER (Sry for my bad english. I'm german )
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Re: High poly models
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09/21/07 10:15
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hehe, ok thanks, i will try to make some cutscenes with recorded videos at high quality to check if it can be combined with the realtime game. But for PC games i cannot use so many GB so i will have to use realtime a lot, like i said Final Fantasy series use (i dont know about the other games, but i know this game uses that technique because i have bought the game and i have checked the game code by reverse enginering and they have 2 kinds of models, one for the cutscenes and one for the game itself)
Thx Schmerzmittel for the advice, i will try to do lower polygons as possible.
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