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Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: NITRO777] #123818
04/14/07 17:38
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I find this whole thing hilarious. Ladies and gentlemen, the cream of evolution evidence. Lets hope people with a slightly larger IQ than a 4 year old will realize how ridiculous this is.

Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: NITRO777] #123819
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so all the bunnys and chickens survived?
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yes

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Very good. Why? Because they were the most fit?
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yes

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How?
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Diet

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And how does the turkey and the duck fit into all this?
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see above

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tell me all about this meteor, where did it strike?
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Yucatan coast off shore

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What evidence do you have for it?
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Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: capanno] #123820
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I find this whole thing hilarious. Ladies and gentlemen, the cream of evolution evidence. Lets hope people with a slightly larger IQ than a 4 year old will realize how ridiculous this is.




I dont know how "large" your IQ is, but that's not really the point is it?

Such statements dont constitute valid arguments. If I criticized Einstein's theory of General Relativity by saying: "I hope everyone who is not stupid realizes how dumb Einstein's thoery is", does this really convince you that it's a bad thoery? I should hope not.

You cant dismiss a theory or evidence because it seems "rediculous" to you. Many things in science sound rediculous, like giant rocks falling from the sky (many people couldn't accept meteors in the past because the idea seemed silly), or germ theory (the idea of "invisible" animals killing poeple seemed fantastical).


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Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #123821
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I believe in evolution,but this TRex -> chicken still sounds funny..why do we assume that TRex evolved to chicken...it may be vice versa or they may have just independently evolved.

Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #123822
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We walk by faith and not by sight. Ohter than that I would suggest that you search for God as hard as you searched for evidence that He does not exist. If you came froma monkey then its all ok... if there is a God then you are in trouble. At the very least consider both sides. ;-)


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Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: Kinji_2007] #123823
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Kinji, I respect you, but please don't go around promoting religeon...


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Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: xXxGuitar511] #123824
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Kinji, I respect you, but please don't go around promoting religeon...




Yeah, God forbid.


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Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: Irish_Farmer] #123825
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Honestly I am astonished

In other threads crationists, particulay Iris Farmer, had alwayeys used reasonable arguments , although to defend a theory which is simply impossible to defend
Even Vatican has officially rejected the creationism

In this thread, crationists really touched the bottom of ignorance ( or bad faith) trying to make an easy irony about scientific evidences

Do you find ridicoulus that the trex turned into a chicken ?

Well I make you laugh again
Elephants come from a mammal as big as a mouse
There are fossils and genetic evidence to support this theory

You simply seem to ignore the key factor : Time

If our mouse inreases in weight, let's say 1% each generation , thanks to favourable conditions, than in 1000 generations, a fraction of time in the history of evolution, our mouse increases in weight about 21.000 times

Apart from that , nobody claimed that chicken come from trex

Big dinos died, very likely, because of the fall of a huge meteorit near Yucatan
The concentration of dust in the atmosphere increases consequently the irradiation of the sun decreases
Big dinos died while small mammals and small dinos could survive thanks to their lower energy consumption ( better diet )

The descendece of birds from some type dinos ( not the trex ) is proved by thousand fossil evidences
This genetic test is simply a further confirmation

Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: AlbertoT] #123826
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We walk by faith and not by sight. Ohter than that I would suggest that you search for God as hard as you searched for evidence that He does not exist




I dont understand what you are saying.. science is not concerened about whether God exists.. evolution doesnt attempt to prove or disprove God's existence; its unrelated. Evolutionary theory is an attempt to make sense of physical evidence.


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Re: Dino/bird evolution: new evidence [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #123827
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By a creationist approach, one could say
"oh, how rediculus that the "yorkshire terrier" is a decentent of the wulf,
such a small dog, this is rediculus"

But dogs are probably the best life example of evolution.
(though a much faster "human controlled" evolution, since the selection and mutation is
controlled by the needs of man for the required purposes of the dogs,
but the biological mechanisms are the same)

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