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mdl problems exporting from max #93078
10/04/06 20:11
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bs_twinbits Offline OP
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I'm using the export plugin from Malabar for Max, max2mdl.
The functionality is very nice, but now, I'd make some new exports with some prototype models and have problems now.(I'm using A6 Prof 6.50.2 , it happens also with 6.40) The problems are to get shadows and it seems the engine has problems with the Z-buffer now, because the sorting of the polygons is wrong. I opened this models in MED and save them again in mdl7 mode, but it makes nothing, the bug still exists.See the screens.
Bernd





Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: bs_twinbits] #93079
10/04/06 21:38
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hmm ...interesting,if you 've done all the necessary set up right;should be experiencing all the stuff.I export all the time...no problem,I am not certain why you getting these "wrong sorting" but will like to hear JCL explain though.


Good lighting doesn't just happen,it's designed.
Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: lionclaws] #93080
10/05/06 06:22
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The engine has no z buffer and thus can hardly have any "problems" with it. A z buffer is a feature of the hardware.

So I guess it's a "read the manual" issue. You've imported your models with transparency. Transparency sorting is explained meanwhile in thousand threads all over the forum and also in the manual, so it should slowly become common knowledge. You can read about transparency and sorting on the "entities" page in the manual.

Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: jcl] #93081
10/05/06 10:31
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JCL, I didn't imported my models with Transparency, I can't remember. So the problem must be an other. I only turned on the flag "shadow" and "polygon" within the properties, not more!
Bernd

Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: bs_twinbits] #93082
10/05/06 10:47
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For making them intransparent, remove the alpha channel from the skin if it has any, and also make sure that the material alpha is at 100%.

I'm moving this to the beginner's forum as it is not a beta issue.

Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: jcl] #93083
10/05/06 10:54
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There is no alpha channel on the skins, the skins are BMP files, as I knew they can't store alpha channels.
JCL, I can't explain me what happens.
Bernd

Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: bs_twinbits] #93084
10/05/06 10:57
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Right, now set the skin material alpha at 100% and your models will be intransparent again.

Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: jcl] #93085
10/05/06 11:01
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JCL, I'm not at home, later after working I will do it. The problem is, that it's the same if I take the mdl directly as exported file from max, or I will open it in MED and restore it as an mdl7 model.
Bernd

Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: jcl] #93086
10/05/06 11:03
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OK , I will try it later and thank you for your help, I will report you what happens.
Bernd

Re: mdl problems exporting from max [Re: bs_twinbits] #93087
10/05/06 11:15
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I am not familiar with Malabar's plugin, but most importers also import the material, and if it's Diffuse.alpha value is only slightly below 100% you get transparency.

If that's not the reason for your problem, you can either ask again in the Ask Conitec forum, or contact the support. We'll then go step by step through your model settings.

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