Sauerbraten / Cube II

"But hopefully these problems will be solved with the next update"

Not to tease you Feank_G not at all
but what problems do you mean ?
speed will not increase dramatically,levels based on models ? when ?
- terrain editor as easy as use as BV engine (all visually by interface) :
never.
- real light management for shaders ,shadows and lightmapping for levels made
of models : all mixed ? hummm ......

hhéééééhhé

for the engineCube 2 : optimisation is really good ,and core display
is not old or pollued by bad things so it can run smoothly
people using FPS creator should take a look at it

1. true, the image does not offer too much detail. i used only the octree blocks of the engine and some lights. but even at this state, try to achieve the same in a6 in say, 4 or 5 hours, including learning the tool.
2. adding detail is no problem, as i can include static meshes which will have the same behaviour to light as the blocks, plus will have full collision detection, you will not be able to differ em from the normal geometry.

@ello: this was built with the latest exe, so maybe try it. shaders are on on default.
@vartan_s: actioncube is based on the prior engine, cubeI, so of course it looks and feels worse.
@Frank_G and maybenew: the texture resolution is defined in the engine, it does not szupport texture rotation, scaling, flipping nor other functions, you have to do it before you insert it or do it per script. a texture definition would look like this, including shader and specularity:

setshader bumpspecmapworld

setpixelparam 1 3 3 3

texture 0 dexsoft/floor4_d.jpg
texture n dexsoft/floor4_local.jpg
texture s dexsoft/floor4_s.jpg

if you wanted to rotate it, add a "1" behind the textures. this all may seem restrictive, but it's packed with advantages, e.g. speed, and the textures always fit. the tiles on the ceiling have only a resolution of 128², a wall is 256². do you see it? no, not really.

@expert: "people using FPS creator should take a look at it" true, for something different the engine is too unflexible.

i am not here to defend it, as it is not really a versatile game creation kit like a6, but i think it does very well _what_ it does, and i will use it instead of a6 for my shooter project(s) [if i ever come across one].

PS: to frank's advice, i reworked the lighting a lil.

see the lightmaps? rendered in 5 seconds.

i use it from perhaps 3,4 years and like some old boys here :
we've waited 2 or 3 years without any updates ...
you do'nt have experienced what some of us have ....

"You can´t tell me that you´ve much experience with Gamestudio"
calm down , take a breath , go to street and look at some gorgeous girls
it will make you less serious about game making

i speak in terms of game making not coding :
it means script only effects and some LOD , and game logic ,nothing else.
any coding on tools , shaders etc .. all that should be existing

i use others 3D engines and my main thing is 3D art making , so we can't really speak about experience, i talk in tersm of
EXPERIENCE OF USING 3DGS and WORKFLOW no
on coding missing things (compare to Torque Tools or LawMaker or BV engine to
see what lacks in 3DGS)

like i said , take a breath, don't take all that too seriously , if we
was in forums of Lawmaker Pro (hight price) and both of us in real serious teams , than ok .. serious... but not the case ... its 3DGS ... héhéhé

Well don't worry , we don't need another flame war , i was just questionning
Frank_G not you , caus i know like me he knows 3DGS limits in workflow and tools
domain , he is very informed on things going on some engines

And he's the guy with open mind not fixed on a engine , that's why i really appreciate him. i hope an answer from him caus he knows what he says if he talks about some improvements on 3DGS

I think it would give way better results in 3dgs when you'd use a model only level, compared to Sphere + 3dgs, I'd say these sauerbraten screenshots aren't that impressive at all.
Frank_G yes, shaders on block geometry is a fps killer, but that doesn't prevent us from taking the 'model only approach', right? We don't need Sphere to get shaders on wall models and the like either. I think that fps will be a tad lower indeed in 3dgs,

Cheers