A8 Pro Prototyper's Licence

Is it possible to get a full pro-version with the royalty-free publishing removed, and at an extreme discount?
I do not want to make games with 3dgs, I would like to use it as a powerful prototyping and demoing tool.

From the 3dgamestudio.com


Do you want put royalty into your license?

No I want to publish full packages there can not be sold. Only exchanged in work environments or demonstrations. Basically a team version that can publish, but do not have publish right, and like a team version, if I wish I can buy a stand-only a8 version and publish with rights.

The business model for game visualizations/demoing/prototyping.


I personally would like to find away to keep making money with the A8. I am after all an uneducated freelance jack of trades who can not through away skill sets.

imo the whole licence package should be reworked due to recent changes of other engines (e.g. the evil Unity), the current features, and speed of development. but it is really up to the owner/developer/publisher to position its product on the market. (I would totally throw away Free/Extra together with decal+stencil shadows, and some backward compatibility.) it is definitely a bad period for small game engines.

, keep the stencil shadows, they are handy for low poly games. But idd remove free and extra version and modify commercial and professional. Also I personally don't mind to invest some money (/init price instead of royalties) but there need to be updates to make it interesting (even if they are minor compared to the bigger engines). I don't get it why JCL doesn't even appoint 0.5 fte / 1 fte for minor updates. Were gamestudio 3d sales so bad the last years?

A different license is not planned at this point. The licenses are normally adapted when a new version comes out, such as A9, but they stay during the lifetime of a version. For the purpose of a Pro Edition with no publish abilities, we have the team editions.

Yup ok...

Jcl the team ed. builds a distributed single package? That information, I could not locate. Publishing as in a product output from the engine, NOT as a sales method for selling the output to customers.

Also Why would I buy 3 copies, shall I give the other two copies out to the needy?
Last I was asking for a single unit that produces a distributive package(.exe). A package that can not be sold. How does the team ed. fill this question?

However, your answer is fine. Sorry to pull you away from your work projects.

Have a productive day.
Mal

I think the team edition cannot compile an exe, while having all other Pro features. Team members can run the script from WED or SED, which is normally a team work procedure.

Sounds like the closest thing that Malice wants is what engines like unity and unreal now offer.

@Malice, do you really nead professional edition if you are just going to prototype? Commercial edition is cheap if you haven't got it already. Some things that prof only can do can also be done through e.g. windows functions.

Thanks but at this point I took the money and invested it into help learning UE4. I found someone willing to mentor for cheaper then a Pro licence. Seems I cannot even hand money over to 3dgs.

But thanks, I'll keep my eye out for the Amazing A9 !! 9 x the Amazing of A8 lol

Sorry to go off topic but... A9? There was barely an A8. any upgrade at this point would be 9x better than what we have.

@Malice, lol A9, a man can dream can't he. Anyway all the best.

I am curious, what feature has the A8 Pro, that hasn't the Commercial version and do you want to use that?
Please let me know.

There will never be any A9 version. And I think there will be never be an android version of this engine.

Look at other android development tools. They took years to get the current status and they are also not perfect. I think it would take about 5 years or longer to make an android export for this engine with the neccersary functions. And there will be a lot of bugs at the beginning. Think about all the different devices and the scale problems you have. Also with autoscale functions. And you need manpower to develop such an engine.

That's why they should do MAC and Linux first I think.

Indeed we had encountered a lot of difficulties with the Android port, and there is still a lot of work to do. And for not to be misunderstood: Work on A9 has not yet begun and even the concept is not yet finished.

jcl, why don't you just say it straight to us? Why do you keeping dying fire of hope in our hears? You aren't interested in developing Acknex any farther... Only that zorro thing, which is going on and on with updates. We all are hanging around here just cause we sill love the engine, we have a lot of memories related to it. But let's be honest, we all know that there is no future for it, but not all of us can accept that.. Cause you are toying with our feelings

It's time for me to go and wipe the snots...

You guys remember me of dudes that are unable to realize when a girl has no interest in them unless they throw it straight in their faces, sometimes.
There is no team behind Acknex anymore. There is no way for them to keep up with the competition, especially not with jcl half-heartedly tweaking 3DGS in his spare time. There is no reason for anyone into game development to choose 3DGS. There is no interest, too much stubbornness and no work done for choosing a different business approach, like for example going Open Source.
It's dead, Jim.

I enjoyed the ride with you all so far, having played around with it since Acknex 3 or 4, back when I wasn't even twelve yet. I love Acknex with my whole heart, and deep inside I've known for a year or two that I need to let go. Now's the time for it.

inb4 "it's not about the tools the engine offers but your skills". I know you could, in theory, code the next Call of Duty in Assembler, monkeys and typewriters, blah blah. No, you're wrong, it's dead.

Well, I can only repeat what I'm saying all the time: We're in fact working on Gamestudio and further A8 updates, but at a slow speed and with interruptions, due to the other tasks. However development is ongoing and the next A8 update will come out in the next months. Zorro does currently not take away Gamestudio development resources, as is developed by a different team.

I still think that mobile development is nothing a hobby developer should pursue, your game will just get lost in a pool of a million other games without massive marketing or luck beyond description. The regular mobile game consumer does not actively search for indie games or whatever and neither wants to pay more than a few cents per title.

Personally I just want to have a solid and easy to use PC engine/ toolset. Linux and Mac support would be nice to have as an "export option" but a development for multiple platforms is not that feasible for a single hobby dev anyway. I'd just like to see a new WED, some new features every now and then and bug fixes but any kind of update is good news.

I think the toolset and general workflow of GS3d needs most work. More macro's, small sed templates for complicated stuff (small stuff so it doesn't get outdated fast), making that ctrl+space sed windows bigger. More and updated shaders, including better shadow shaders and terrain shaders. Better debugging tools. Easy to set-up windows dialogues (would be nice as extra flags/functions for panels). More modern version of and less buggy MED. New WED.

Models being able to split the world in manageable chunks just like blocks can would be nice too so blocks are not needed for that anymore. And other stuff to increase performance.

Linux and Mac support is nice for people who want to sell their stuff (+ ~10-15% potential sales ?). I don't know how much time it costs to implement though. Android support would also nice but more for fun stuff than serious stuff I must admit.

Small features are always welcome too and they can be faster implemented by the devs so that's a plus.