GEO mod 2.0

Hi members

Did anyone of you heard something about the Geo-mod 2.0?
Its an really cool destruction Engine!
Its used in the Game "Red Factions"!

The best You can destroy everything at the Place where you hit!

Very cool!

Here some Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lICurOVsNv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U93lGcMC4mc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_KJZ8uMw0&feature=related

Did anyone know how to make this with A7?

Looks like the destructible buildings in age of empires 3. That uses Havok physics. It is completely possible to get havok in A7, it's just that licensing costs a fortune...

Also remember that red faction:gurrilla is a ps3 game. PS3 has 8 cores as apposed to the 2 or 4 on a pc...

your right !
But maybe is here one of the Users who can get ideas to make our own system!
The first and 3rd video explains a bit how it works!

Maybe is here a member who know how to make it possible!

I hope Conitec will buy the Havok engine and give it out with an update for Lite-c free and 3dgs versions!
That would be very cool!

^^

I don't think Conitec will put Havok on Lite-C Free. Becuase unlike ODE, you have to pay for it.
So Conitec won't put something needs money in a free product.

i forgot-.-

what is with physX?
Its free!

But Havok has more FPS than ODE and PhysX, i hope it comes with A7!

Red Faction 3 also runs on the Xbox 360, wich has 'only' 3 cores. It should be able on a pc without many problems

hi again

i've some videos from the old red factions!
Maybe could this help to understand how it works!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LN7wJ0kZ8I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u73O7lWc4Dw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3mm2FInTdA&feature=related


I got an idea!Maybe help this!
is it possible to remove vertices in realtime (runtime)?
If yes its an step forward! ^^

as far as i know it's not possible to remove vertices in real time. the biggest obstacle in creating something similar with 3dgs is mdl in my opinion. better model control is needed and not only for this but for many other things too...

//But Havok has more FPS than ODE and PhysX, i hope it comes with A7!

He-he, what about Newton? :-P

Newton is nice ^^
But eats performance with the appetite from a sumo wrestler ^^

well if you're looking like that about performance...it depends how you programm it. you could get more fps with physx then with havoc if you do better programming and optimization............at least it should be like that...

????
Really?

I didn't know this!
Thanks for the information!
But I don't know how to include PhysX in Gamestudio!

Newton or ODE is the only possible way for me!
But if you could tell me how to use PhysX, I would use it too!

thanks for the information ^^
Sebastian

i was talking hypotetically...if we could have physx or havoc with 3dgs it would depend on your programming skill to get more fps.

anyway, if you'd like to use physX with 3dgs you or someone else should write a wrapper like VeT did for newton

Ahhhh

I heard Chris3D is now writing for a PhysX-Plugin!
http://www.opserver.de/ubb7/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=275016#Post275016
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Should be awesome ^^

Well Havock can be used for non commercial things only !

For Nvidia Pysix, it could be implemented in A7 , i don't know why it is not planned
Even old and buggy engines have it implemented like Dark Basic Pro !
The problem, will we have tools to edit physic properties vissually ? i doubt 3DGS is lot more coder oriented than artist !!

I am using Newton now!
^^
Because the newton objects don't fall trough the terrain ^^
Newton has more realism!

@ VeT :
The links in your description are dead
But thanks for the wrapper ^^

@all:
I got some ideas to simulate this MOD!
I saw some Videos from DMM-Physik system
http://www.pixelux.ch/content/view/52/50/
http://www.pixelux.ch/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
http://www.pixelux.ch/content/view/28/43/


I think the model will be deformed at the beginning and if the deformation is to big the model will chosen with an other broken modell!
I think its possible to make this with the AUM 50 code!(Deformable terrains)
and ent_morph!

And a bit Ragdoll flexibility ^^

Newton supports breaking geometry. Nothing needs to be predefined. Newton dynamically calculates new mesh pieces which could be passed to the engine as new Direct3D meshes.

cool!
Didnt know this!
Is there a Tutorial that tells me step by step all functions of Newton2(and how to use it)?
I only found the small description of one PH Ball in a Level!

now i'd like to know if VeT's wrapper is able to do that?

and btw amy, where'd you see that Newton supports that? can you post a link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3wF0Klk5wU&feature=related

I found it too ^^
she is right!
No lie, cool^^

VeT we need help ^^



BTW have alook at Ogre :
http://www.realmatter.com/files/RealMatterPublicDemo.zip

//and btw amy, where'd you see that Newton supports that? can you post a link?
i posted link for the video with brekeable level, but now its unavaivable as Julio remake a lot of important things like car and character control, but they will come back

wow, sebbi91, you found it

http://www.filefront.com/user/NeArGa
here is link... while i got free time, i'll move to another server

there are a-star pathfind, v20 of wrapper (v21 is ready, but still not published) and first tutorial of using Newton with sources

so you're not able to "wrap" that into your Newton wrapper yet? do you know when will you be able to do that?

would be nice because its an dead link ^^

I can wrap only those functions, that are ready in DLL
As there is no "breakeable" functions in DLL, i dont think that i can do this

Really, i dont know, when Julio would re-make that level... i think, after joint upgrade (he promied to publish next version at the end of this week)

He spent a lot of time working on apple, i-pod, linux versions of Newton, but i dont think that its the best choise

2 sebbi91, try this one http://www.filefront.com/13916733/LiteCNewton2.02.v20.rar

thank you ^^
edit: lol the car falls trough the terrain ^^

in the evening, or tomorrow i'll release v21, with working buoyancy (archimedian force, objects are swiming in the water), you'll see

cool ^^
btw:
your car left one wheel and fall through the terrain ^^lol

car is under reconstruction

^^

does anyone know how I could use physx with 3dgs? like as an addon kind of deal. I looked at some examples and their cloth physics made me piss my pants.

You'll have to wait until Chris3D releases a completed version of the wrapper.

ok. will I need to contact chris3d or will it be released free to the public?

He will release it for free.