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Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! #226866
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Here is a recent article in which a leading British education expert states

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"Just because something lacks scientific support doesn't seem to me a sufficient reason to omit it from the science lesson

Now, my purpose is not to poke holes in that idea but rather to present the following solution which up until now, I've not heard anyone put forth.

I, F69, formally wish creationism to be taught in the classroom. But only if we also teach evolution during bible study. cool

For if lack of scientific support is enough for a theory to end up in a science classroom, then lack of religious support should be enough for a theory to end up in a biblical classroom. Thus, in my proposal, if a biology class spends one week, one hour a day examining creationism as an alternative to evolution in schools, then the bible studies must dedicate an equal amount of time (6 hours) to presenting evolution as an alternative to creationism in church.

How about it creationists? Doesn't this seem like a peaceful and equitable way to resolve our differences?

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: fastlane69] #226893
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Just can't keep your finger out of the religous / science light socket can you. smile

And of course I will grab hold. Shocking......

Why does Creationism or ID need to be taught in science class, why not as a social studies lesson, or philosphy topic? Hell throw evolutionism in to these studies also.

So yes teach all manner of things, let our youth sort it out. Just do not teach unprovable topics in our science classes.

Ken

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Nardulus] #226895
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Teach them that nobody knows or has the answer.


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Joozey] #226896
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it should be presented as an existing theory, nothing more

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Nardulus] #226897
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I would rather discuss the merits of this proposal rather than the merits of teaching one or the other.

I agree with everything you say Nard (including the light socket. wink ), but what I want to see here is what would happen if we presented this as a proposal to the creationists. After all, irrelevant of how WE feel, THEY want it in the classroom and I offer this as a compromise. I'm curious to see what happens when we do the ol' revers-a-rony and try to get OUR teachings into THEIR schools! laugh

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Joozey] #226903
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Originally Posted By: Joozey
Teach them that nobody knows or has the answer.


But that would be wrong..


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: PHeMoX] #226906
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really phemox? you know exactly what happened? did you experience it? Granted I am more on the evolution side than the creation side, but I agree with fastlane69 because i think people should be exposed to all views and be given the chance to choose for themselves instead of just taught one theory or the other.

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: lostclimate] #226914
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Knowing exactly, down to all the details, what happens is not quite the opposite of claiming 'nobody knows', that was all I was saying. smile

I do not pretend to know everything at all, I just think people should be educated about what we do know.

Sure, there will be parts of or even entire theories that are 'questionable' to some extent, but in search of truth I do not think we must get sidetracked by silly theories like supernatural unicorn spaghetti monsters and creationist insta-cadabra-bang-and now there's life-talk.

That probably sounds way less respectful than I meant and for that I do apologize, but I really do not take people very serious when they believe God is trying to fool us all by putting 'fake fossils' in the ground and made this earth 4400 years ago in 6 days or so. Sorry, but science has shown already that the earth is far far older and that life evolved.

Apart from an overwhelming lack of evidence that this creation happened of course. Again, I apologize for my bluntness, I'm a bit pumped today I guess,

Cheers


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: PHeMoX] #226935
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Please let's not devolve this discussion into which viewpoint is right and which is wrong. As you can see, my proposal doesn't presuppose either is right or wrong, merely equality in teaching.

Let's talk about if this is a feasible idea. If so, how do we get the message out. If not, what are the obsticles.

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: fastlane69] #226937
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I'm a bit pumped today I guess


Me too :P lets throw on some boxing gloves laugh

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