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Re: Big Bang
[Re: ptrc1c]
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08/06/06 05:49
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i always wanted to understand that, space is a vacuum..... so why is there distance between everything, and its not like a platic bottle with all the air sucked out of it, shrinking together, not only that, the universe is expanding.... to where? other universes? what describes a universe, were are the boudary lines?
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Re: Big Bang
[Re: lostclimate]
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08/06/06 08:04
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Ptr1c and lostclimate The theory of relativity can provide an answer to your questions I do not mean I grasp the theory , of course You ,same as me and anybody else and Newton too, assume that space is a sort of empty box The universe is expanding inside the box but where are the boundary lines ? According to Einstein it is not like that Space(and time)can not be separated from matter If matter does not exist then also space and time do not exist However I dont'think, as far as I know, that the theory of relativity can answer my original question. Not only, Einstein himself realized that it was a key issue He did what a scientist should never do He introduced a "constant" in his equation to "force" the universe to be "stable" No beginning, no end But some years after the expansion of universe and the big bang have been proved beyond any reasonable doubt
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Re: Big Bang
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08/06/06 16:37
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Yes, those questions are very good ones, that's what would have to be researched somehow. I'm not quite getting though, why the big bang theory would be in favor of a religious viewpoint? It's not an atheistic viewpoint either, it's a scientific viewpoint, however I think I do understand where you are comming from, because of this quote; Quote:
Nowadays Science is geared toward atheism
Yes, it seems geared towards atheism, but that's because theists usually claim their religion can't be proven or disproven with science, since science doesn't deal with the supernatural and the like. In my opinion this claim is only true for about half of everything what might be possible to disproof. Disproving the bible would be a start and as for it's historical 'truths', it's very possible to disproof it, infact most of it doesn't get any true support by serious scientific research. Think of archaeological research not supporting some if not most of the biblical (historical) claims. (Most of the things that could be supported by archaeological research turns out to be exagerated at least if not downright wrong, that's one area of science that contradicts the bible, and there are more, like geology, but also in the physics area, like turning water into whine ...).
Okey, I'm drifting away off topic here I know, but since theists do not even have a theory other than 'it happened' and 'the big bang theory is wrong', I can't help it hehehe. Off course there's plenty of room to agree with the Big Bang theory and still be religious, but yeah ... often they don't ...
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Re: Big Bang
[Re: Blattsalat]
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08/07/06 03:23
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When the big bang actually occured, well we can use the following as a great example of how it expanded. For instance, take an unbaked chocolate chip cookie (yum...) for example. Prior to it being baked, you have a small area with chocolate chips in it (all within a small area). However, when you shove that delicious cookie in the oven the entire area expands, as well as the chocolate chips move apart from one another. Now as a final product you have a multiple of more room since it was baked (more area), and your chocolate chips are spread out moreso than from the start. **This is my artistic, ha, illustration of what I'm talking about** In a way this is how our universe works too. Instead of the oven stopping though, so far it just keeps on expanding and hasn't stopped yet. So every day our universe is gradually getting bigger and giving more room for other galaxies to move further and further apart (and sometimes maybe even collide) but they are given more freedom room to move.
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