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Re: What are you working on?
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11/07/12 10:20
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That's why i don't like and don't stick to realistic games, [...] too much parameters and real world rules to follow, specially for lonewolves. Borderlands world and style for example make you free from reality, no more way to stick to real world ruleS. [...] for indies it's lot more simple to follow I think that is a misconception. Those not-so-realistic games are just derivatives of what is known to most people, but with a twist to some things of your common sense-model of your reality. So if the game makes it plausible that you can shoot portals with a gun "onto" walls and you can walk through them, you still apply your well known model of physics to this exception, even if unconsciously. If those two things (new, non-realistic thing and known rules) fuse well and it is fun, you have a really good game mechanic or -look, like in Portal 1 & 2, or Borderlands. Compared to the shot RvlExile posted above, you find also some dishes in Borderlands, like in this screenshot: Even though the scene is very strange, you can see a porcellain teacup and a bronze teapot on the table and handwritten place cards on the table. It looks like our super not-so-real freaks with those strange clothings had a nice tea party. Before that crazy girl blew the whole thing off. See? Even if you build a not-so-realistic game you have to stick to real-world things, shapes, dimensions and common sense to make it plausible. If very much of your game is not plausible and highly disagrees with the things the player is used too, he will most certainly reject it. Or won't have fun. That accounts to all things and relations you know and therefore you can't say it is simpler to make a non-realistic game. Sometimes it is even harder if you introduce very innovative stuff that is in conflict with some fundamental principles people know and are used too. So, yes, making a photo realistic game is very much work for one person, but a non-photorealistic game can be the same amount of work. Don't be fooled by simplicity. Making simple things really good is sometimes more time-consuming and much more work then throwing in a potpourri of the greatest hits.
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Re: What are you working on?
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11/07/12 11:03
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thx chris... good example. i dont like the comic style much i prefer realistic artworks. maybe i start in a few days with creating the dinning room but before i have to model an teacup
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Re: What are you working on?
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11/07/12 20:25
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Even if you build a not-so-realistic game you have to stick to real-world thingsI see you are like a lot of people: limitated by all repetitive game patterns : FPS, RPG etc ... in Medieval, futurist etc .. worlds Game making is unlimited, your only limit is imagination in game design ... why not creating a world with giant tables ? Don't be so limited, and open your mind ----------- Hopefully it exist people that bring originality and don't think like robots and follow traditionnal game design patterns and have good results ! Some examples : just anotehr example : Why not creating surrealistic world , with different gravity zones, only water would be dangerous , and you would be chased by chickens ? Following real world rules is not needed, it's up to you to follow it to some point. Realistic games makes that you must really follow up all real world rules : siezs, textures, 3D objects etc ... what noon realistic games don't have to care about at less or more degree. I just hope game makers to keep some crazy ideas and make original worlds wiht entertaining gameplay. And yes non realistic graphics can be lot more affordable for indie game makers (Zelda Wind Walker, hand painted WOW textures etc ...) !
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Re: What are you working on?
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11/08/12 00:35
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Even if you build a not-so-realistic game you have to stick to real-world thingsI see you are like a lot of people: limitated by all repetitive game patterns : FPS, RPG etc ... in Medieval, futurist etc .. worlds Game making is unlimited, your only limit is imagination in game design ... why not creating a world with giant tables ? Don't be so limited, and open your mind I think you understood him wrong. If a game follows no realistic (and thus known) pattern you won't understand it. All your screenshots follow a realistic pattern. 1: Usual forrest. No blue/yellow striped trees, just normal green. Even the giant rainbow snail can clearly be seen as a snail. 2: Physics behave as you would expect it. I played the game. No new gravity rules or strange alternations. 3: ??? 4: Lego bricks. That pretty much describes Minecraft. What do you expect? You stick them together and they stay in that place. Nothing super "unrealistic" for a brick game. 5: A floating landmass. But besides that everything is normal. Grass is green, the player sticks to the ground and does not fall through it. The space is not 4-dimensional and you don't move in a giant frozen methane-block. All the unrealistic things are just aspects, never the whole thing.
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Re: What are you working on?
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11/08/12 22:29
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For example : some rythm games with some "Tron" style vehicle surfing on surface made by music notes are not realistic at all Action games using some sticks turning around where you have to avoid some sort of powers speheres is also TOTALLY Irrealistic But yes i understand your point of view, sa&ying that a base can exist in non realistic games. But i could make a game using only Green and Blue Spheres and your characte rwould be a red cube firing red globes ... where is the realistic ? Well forget reality, exit from the matrix ... yes irealistic games exists hopefully !
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