BRILLIANT evilSOB!!!!!!
Many,many thanks --IT WORKS, thank God for that, I was about to give up and redesign the level. (which uses a platform swinging around in an arc to transport the player on to the next section of problems)

I have spent hours going through the scripts to find something like this, had no idea they had a special '_entity' stuck on the end of the 'player' (plBiped01)

sorry to have bothered you so much, if I'm ever down your way, I'll drop in with a bottle! (or two)

YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY!!

thanks again, sincerely David (UK)