Hi people.
I´m trying to develop a fully working game in Gamestudio since forver (everytime i stumpedd with a different problem and had to abandon the developing), and now i purchased the Full pro 8 version and wanted to know about some old undocumented limitations that sometimes only the forum users can answer.
-first question:
In the old engine, either only Lite-C or only .wdl could be used at a time - you couldn´t use both, and some special resources like special shadings were only available in either one or another... this still happens in version 8?

-second question:
Shadow baking in gamestudio only worked with MAP blocks from wed, they didn´t quite go right with models or terrain... i don´t use map blocks anymore, only MDL models to create levels with the new physic engine, but they looked kinda ugly with standard light and i was forced to cut the level in smaller pieces and bake shadows in an external 3d program, and even so the level didn´t look as good as when you bake in unreal engine.
Is there a solution for this problem now?

Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

Hi Ericmor,


What "special shadings" are you referring to? The shader pipeline has improved over the years and Lite-C is the language of choice for everything shader-related. I am 100% sure that everything you want to do with shaders is possible with Lite-C. C-Script is dead.



WED supports the classic blocks and also static meshes from models. As far as I know, the lightmapper for models is a lot more stable now and creates decent lightmaps. Nevertheless, you can also import models with 2nd UV set and a seperate lightmap to use it in Gamestudio, so, it is up to you and your used 3D apps how well the lightmap looks like. I don't know anything about the Unreal Engine and its lightmapper.

Nevertheless, if you have highly dynamic scenes, you could also consider to use a softshadowmapping technique to create light and shadows dynamically.

If you would post more details about your project, you will get answers with higher information, I suppose though, good luck with your project and it is always nice to see people coming back

best regards!

The lightmapper works with models? I once tried the lightmapper for terrains but I wasn't able to get it working...

Yes, you have to import the models in WED from MDL and they will become static meshes with lightmaps when you build.

Wow that's really great! Didn't knew that...

Thanks for the answers, folks! Much appreciated.

This is something that apparently didn´t change: the lack of decent organized documentation.
I know there´s a lot of resources, and different versions, but games are becoming more complex and detailed and to go after the current generation level of quality there´s always new implementations being made in 3dgamestudio, but they´re always BARE documented!
For starters, when i first started scripting to gamestudio, i learned the wdl lenguage and had to throw away the basic script functions and made my own (thousands of code lines, hundreds of scripts), however i never learned Lite-C because i already had a large amount od work done, and suddenly the guys change the WHOLE lenguage!
If the cursed syntax changes weren´t enough!
Well, seems i´m doomed to make the whole Lite-C tutorial and dominate a whole new lenguage to make games in gamestudio again.
Anyway, thanks once again for the help, folks.

lite c is more powerful and very easy to learn since you've known a lot of c-script. there are no too many difficulties on converting old wdl files to .c times always changes,we also hardly know which script language we'll use after a year. so ,just take it easily in my opinion

Exactly. If you know c-script (appearently you do very well), its pretty easy to learn lite-c.

Changing from c-script to lite-c was the best desicion Conitec made since I'm using Gamestudio! C-Script was really worse!

Well people, i hope that´s true, because i´m going to do ALL tutorials and study all related resources available from all gamestudio and C-lite related sites.
This time, is do or die.
And i mean it: this project is nothing more than a basic assembling solution for RPG-adventure games - i´ve coded inventory systems, door and containers systems, dialogue and event systems... but YEARS passs by everytime it´s near completion, and when money runs dry and family or friends starts pressuring in, i have to take a full-time consuming unrelated job and see all the hard work go down to the drain (mainly, all art pipeline get outdated and all scripts stop working because of syntax or engine changes).
And then, i try changing the engine - tried torque, tried Unity, i even assembled a large art-filled rpg with rpg maker (don´t laugh, there´s 2 years of artwork job in this thing, and loads of ruby scripts to change resolution, battle engine and whatnots), tried unreal... enough.
I can do this.
Gamestudio can pull this off.
It will happen.
I want to believe.
Seriously guys, i´m going to the bitter end - wish me luck, and thanks for the answers.